Growth, Self Love & Entrepreneurship

In this episode, Lunden sits down with 2 women from her hometown, Jana Mowrer RD and Amanda Marchini, to talk growth, self love & running a business online as a woman. They reflect on the town they grew up in, talk about their core values and mission in life and have a few good laughs, too!

Timestamps to help you better navigate this episode:
(0:00) Intro

(0:20) FREE Self Love & Sweat MONTHLY Calendar

(1:42) Growing up in a small town

(10:02) Core values, finding your WHY & focusing on the bigger picture in tough moments

(14:27) How to 'gut check' yourself

(17:40) Sponsor: Snap Supplements 25% OFF using code LUNDEN25

(19:35) Courage & confidence

(21:02) How do you teach kids courage & confidence

(23:48) What does self love mean to you & how does it show up?

(29:55) What would you say to someone who wants to show up with their message online

Jana Mowrer is a Registred Dietitian and CEO of Health Wins serving individuals AND corporations. Jana helps women break the cycle of chronic dieting to feel comfortable and confident in their own body. She's also the host of NOURISH YOU podcast.

Amanda Marchini is a wonderful mom of 2, wellness lifestyle mentor & host of The One Where You Live Well podcast. She helps you create the healthy lifestyle you desire because wellness is essential and you deserve to LIVE WELL.

Connect with Jana:
IG: @janamowrerrd
LEARN FROM JANA: linktr.ee/assistant.jana

Connect with Amanda:
@itsamandamarchini
LEARN FROM AMANDA: linktr.ee/amandamarchini

Listen to other episodes with Lunden, Jana & Amanda together:
The one with the Life Coach & Dietitian
Thoughts & habits of High Performing Women

Transcript

Lunden Souza: [00:00:00] Welcome to Self Love and Sweat the podcast, the place where you'll get inspired to live your life unapologetically, embrace your perfect imperfections, break down barriers, and do what sets your soul on fire. I'm your host Lunden Souza.

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Lunden Souza: [00:01:42] Welcome back to the podcast. Today we have two really amazing and special guests. Both are from my hometown and I've known them some one of you, Jenna. I've known you since high school. And Amanda, I've kind of known you. We've had mutual friends or friends that were siblings and have connected later on in adulthood. So I'm so excited to have both of you guys here on the podcast today just to, yeah, chat about what it's like to be a woman from Merced growing their business online, putting ourselves out there and then ultimately wanting to live our best life and a life that we love and feel congruent with. And so normally I'll just read a bio about my guests, but I would just so much rather you guys share who you are and kind of what you're up to. So welcome Jenna and Amanda to the podcast. And yeah, Jenna, do you want to start sharing about you?

Jana Mowrer: [00:02:59] Sure. Thanks Lunden for having me on today. I'm super excited to see you guys as well. So it's so cool to be able to connect with other women that are from Merced or in Merced. So I am a registered dietitian. I have or I own health Winds with Jenna, which is an online nutrition coaching and consulting company. We work with corporations and individuals to enhance their health and wellbeing. I'm super excited just to share what it means to be a woman from Merced, but just a woman as a whole that is in this space that's entrepreneurial and growing their brand, if you will, and really changing the narrative around what it means to care for yourself as a female. So thanks for having me today.

Lunden Souza: [00:03:41] Yeah. Thanks for being here. And Jenna's been on the podcast before, so I'll link that in the description below. So yeah, welcome back. And Amanda, I talk to you all the time, but this is the first time on the podcast, so welcome.

Amanda Marchini: [00:03:52] Thank you. Thank you for having me. Yes. So Lunden and I are actually business partners. I am a wellness lifestyle mentor and clean beauty advocate. So I not only advocate for clean beauty and safer beauty laws and transparency in ingredients in your personal care products, but I also help mentor women. And this is amazing, especially being this, you know, small town, you know, theme of our of our show today is mentoring women like me who don't really know where to start and keeping things simple with just living a healthy lifestyle because it shouldn't be overwhelming. And I feel like some people make it harder than it needs to be. So I'm so glad to be here and be able to be on this journey with you and with other be in company, with other like minded women. It's really amazing.

Lunden Souza: [00:04:42] Yes. And Amanda is also a super power mom. And we talk a lot. And Amanda will be leaving me Voxer messages and like tending to her children at the same time and making coherent sentences and doing the thing. So I always admire the way that you you do you because I don't have kids. So I'm always like bowing down in, in awe of women who rock it and then also like run a household too. So I have to recognize you for that for sure.

Lunden Souza: [00:05:11] So I'm going to start with. Yeah, the first question. So both of or all of us are from a I mean, air quote, small town, I guess, population wise, there are much smaller towns. But we grew up in the Central Valley of California, um, in what we would call like a small town. I think we all if you're from Merced, you kind of know the feeling I'm probably thinking about when I think about just, yeah, two high schools, a lot of friends, you know, from our home town and then, you know, kind of being elsewhere, doing other things and still being able to come back to kind of this rooted grounded, at least I would feel like foundation. So how do you guys feel about growing up in a town like Merced? Do you feel like it helped you or impacted you to get to where you are? Because I don't know. I just feel like I've traveled a lot. I've met a lot of people and something inside of me is just like, There's nothing really like that. 209 Spirit Do you feel that to whoever wants to answer first can go?

Amanda Marchini: [00:06:15] I definitely feel like being from a small town has helped with that sense of an appreciation of community, for sure. Um, I think it's a value that maybe I don't want to say can only be appreciated because I can't speak for other people who live in big cities or who, you know, have traveled the world. But, um, I just think it can be appreciated maybe greatly by people who are from a small town and just have that. Everyone knows everyone. Or like we were saying, I'm connected with you through this person and that person. And, you know, not only a sibling, but a friend and a this and a that. And there's just that kind of like everyone knows everyone feeling. And I feel like I don't know that that's helped me necessarily get to where I am. But I feel like it helps me with my confidence in where I am now.

Jana Mowrer: [00:07:11] Yeah. Lunden, when you when you asked this question, I was like, there's so many, like, memories that ran through my mind of just like, really good times that I think a lot like a lot of people can share in the community. But the one one word that came to mind for me was opportunity. So there were so many opportunities that were given to me that I don't think I would have had if I was in a larger city. So, like, as some of you know, like I ran for city council and people came and supported me, I was like, I don't even know where you're coming from. And they were just like, we we see something bigger in you than what you see in yourself right now. And I think that's the biggest lesson that I took away from it, is, one, the opportunity. And two, the community came around and said, We see you in a different light than you can see yourself, and it's okay to step forward because we got your back. And that was one of the big like, I will forever remember that and still remember that as I'm building relationships even outside of Merced of how do you form those those tight knit relationships where you know that people have your back no matter what, right? Like we're all humans, we all have our flaws, we all have our things that we struggle with. But still the community will come and support you and rally around you so that you can be everything you're meant to be. And so that's what that's what Merced reminds me of, because that's what I experienced. And I think so many people do experience that in a smaller town.

Lunden Souza: [00:08:41] Yeah. The rallying behind you the I got your back that like, inner knowing of. Yeah. Like I love what you said about seeing that greatness or that power in you and you're not really seeing it yourself. I remember when I lived in Austria and worked there, there was at one point a girl that got a job. We had a the company was growing a lot of different countries and she was from Tracy, California, 209. The instant we realized to each other, like where we were from, we were like, Oh my gosh, 209. And like our just something shifted, you know? And even like, of course, you know, we had that connection. We were from the same town. I'm sure someone else could have that connection. But even people around us were like, It's weird. Like some something about that connection with you guys is just like, different. And yeah, her name was Kate and we became really close and just hung out all the time and it just felt very, yeah, like, like a homey, like, very rooted. And so, yeah, I'm just, I'm grateful that I've met you guys. And then also just, yeah, like looking side to side, you know, I guess literally here because we're in like this split screen space. But even just like in general, like looking and being like, wow, there's so many amazing women and people in general, but especially amazing women that I've connected with since being back from Austria and being, you know, reintroduced to more people that I have always known.

Lunden Souza: [00:10:02] You just like, don't get a chance to always reconnect. And so when I see how well you guys are doing and growing and others too, it just, yeah, makes me really proud of where we came from. And just like the people that have come out of this space. Um, okay, so next question, which is one of my, I think my favorite topics to coach on and also to get clarity on for myself is do you have a set of like core values or a why or a bigger picture and mission that, you know, in addition to knowing people have your back in a town, whatever. Okay, great. And it's important for us to like set up a structure so that, like, we can do what we say we're going to do and we can have our own back. And I feel like core values and wise are very helpful and powerful. Amanda, do you have one? I'll start with you first. Do you have one that is your like, yeah, go to mantra feeling y values that keeps you keeping on when it like shit gets tough and hard and life happens.

Amanda Marchini: [00:11:07] My girls are always my y my I have a four year old and a two year old almost three. And while I've always been an educator at heart, I'm a former teacher and left the classroom to be with my girls and they are forever my reason for everything I do. And yes, like when shit gets hard, I like think of my girls and why I'm doing it and how I am raising our family. Whether that's with, you know, clean foods or, you know, treating our bodies well. Um, the work that I do, the impact that I want to make is for them and for their children and for their children's children because. I feel like I can't know what I know and live this life that I believe in so wholeheartedly without leading by example and teaching others as well. So my girls all day, every day, I want to be able to keep up with them until, you know, until the day I die, literally, you know. And so or maybe they just don't want me to anymore. And that's okay too. But it's always my kids and and education and making an impact.

Lunden Souza: [00:12:28] What about you, Jana?

Jana Mowrer: [00:12:30] So two of my core values are courage and integrity. Courage to do the thing that's uncomfortable and integrity to align with what I say I'm going to do. And I think those are really hard to keep up with. And they're always moments. I call them gut check moments where we really just have to literally like gut check my stomach and say, okay, like, is this in alignment with what I said I'm going to do? And is this am I stepping into courage of something that might be uncomfortable? Because it can be scary to put yourself out there and it can be really overwhelming and it can be all the things. And so as you lean into courage and do it anyways, I think it makes it a little bit easier knowing that, okay, this may be uncomfortable, but I know that I'm moving outside my comfort zone and I know I know I'm moving into something that's better for myself or for other people. And this really came from my own experience. Like I there was nothing in me that wanted to be a dietician. I wanted to be I wanted to be in like HR or something else. But then I got really sick myself. I was in and out of the hospitals. I couldn't figure out what was going on with me. And then I found out that it was because of I was severely lactose intolerant. And so I changed my diet, felt better. And I thought, how many other people are not feeling good based on the food that they're consuming? And so I always go back to that thought. And what the doctor shared with me is you will you will feel better when you eat better. And so I just I always go back to that in moments that feel like hard or like I feel like my message isn't getting across or, you know, there's a struggle in changing behaviors because that was really what shifted so many things in my own life. And so to continue to be able to share that and impact women is just something that is a grounding source.

Amanda Marchini: [00:14:25] Mhm. That's like a literal gut check. Like you had a literal gut check. Right? And then now, you metaphorically use that to keep doing what you're doing, which is awesome! 

Lunden Souza: [00:14:37] How did you. Because I love that gut check because I think people can resonate that with that in general. Like you kind of have that feeling. But I also know that that feeling, that inner knowing can come as a different feeling. How did you know it was like a gut check for you versus I know sometimes it can show up in different ways, but like, how did you because people have that visceral feeling in their gut or in their heart or in different places. Like how is it a real gut check for you? Or how did you know that the gut check was for you?

Jana Mowrer: [00:15:11] So when it doesn't go away, so if it, you know, come if it's like, okay, it's here one day and then it really never resurfaces. But if it literally has not gone away for weeks, months, years, I always say like, you got to lean into that because that is that is your God, like that is God speaking to you and it's time to listen. And so if that's not going away and you keep kind of being like haunted by it, if you will, or you just like know it and you can't get rid of it, that's really where I'm like, okay, this that's meant to be like, We got to go. We got to figure out how to go and move in that direction.

Lunden Souza: [00:15:52] Yeah. And I often talk about it like hearing your body's whispers before it's like pounding at your door, right? Because I think we can all think of moments where we've been like, Oh, I can kind of feel something's off. Maybe I should slow down or check that out or whatever. And then I think we all have those moments too, where it's like, Oh yeah, my body was like screaming at me to be like, no muss, you know? And so I think that when we get those feelings, it's important to recognize them, like you said, as a sign and then hold them with a sense of like, you know, protection and endearment to be like, okay, next time you whisper to me, I'm going to hear that whisper instead of getting to that extreme every single time. So that's why I ask, because I think it's important to figure out how your body uniquely whispers to you. I also love the word courage. I think that's such a powerful word. And I. Yeah, want to recognize both of you and then anyone listening to like when you doesn't even have to be social media, like when you put yourself out there, that shit is scary sometimes. And I believe that when you do it despite feeling x, y, or Z, that's like cool. Like, that's where you get to show you what you're made of.

Lunden Souza: [00:16:59] That's where you get to like gather the evidence of your greatness. And I would imagine the more opportunities you had to show up courageous, make it easier, or let's say you're ready to like, it's like once you've I've done skydiving once, it's scary as shit and then you do it and you're like, I want to do it again. Like, just take me back up and I want to jump again. So I feel like, Do you guys or I guess I'm asking, do you guys feel like you? Does that resonate? Like where you're showing up to hard shit and then like, you're remembering like, Oh yeah, I did that before I could do it again. Can you remember a specific time where you were super courageous and like pull that out of your back pocket and how does that feel? I don't care who answers first.  Hey, really quick, I want to interrupt the podcast for just a minute to tell you about one of my favorite supplements for hair, skin, nails, digestive and gut health, and that is snap supplements, super greens with collagen. Now, if you're following me on social media, you've probably seen me post about this a bunch because honestly, this product tastes amazing and it's jam packed with nutrients, like I said, to support healthy hair, skin and nails. It helps support detoxification, a healthy immune system.

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Jana Mowrer: [00:19:35] Uh, yeah. So for me that's where confidence came from. It was really being able to push myself out of a comfort zone that was really keeping me small. And it was the fear narrative, right? Like all the fear was coming up of like, well, what if, what if? And all the unknowns. And it was keeping me in this little box that I was putting myself in, which was so ironic. And then as I gently this is why I'm such a fan of like, baby steps as well, because you baby step your way out of it and you that those baby steps of you proving that you did that is you Now it's building your confidence. So like, I don't care if someone does like five minutes of exercise or one minute of exercise, I just care that they did it because they can then say, I did do that. And now we start building that confidence muscle. So the courage and confidence are so intertwined in my mind and I see it over and over again of like, okay, just show up. Just show up. Just show up. And then now you look back and you're like, Oh, I can do 30 minutes. Not a problem. And you feel so much more confident in your own self because you did do it. And that aligns with the integrity, right? Like what you say you're going to do is what you actually do. And it's just a huge mental shift and there's a huge life shift with that as well.

Amanda Marchini: [00:21:00] Mhm. Love that. So good.

Lunden Souza: [00:21:02] How do you teach your kids courage or to step out of that box? Amanda. Like, I know you do it with action. And how do you teach your kids to do that too? In a space of integrity?

Amanda Marchini: [00:21:14] I think for me one.

Amanda Marchini: [00:21:15] Thing is leading by example for sure, but also never forcing them to do something because not doing something is also really brave. I think in a sense of they're four and two, right? So we hear a lot, I think of encouragement with kids like, you were so brave, you did this and you were so brave and that was so brave. And you climbed to the top of the monkey bars or you did this. But it's also really brave to cut check yourself as a four and two year old and say, I don't want to do that just because everyone else is doing that and because, you know, my friends did it and you say I'm brave for doing it. Or, you know, the other mommy at the park says, that's really brave. It's also really brave and courageous and I don't even know that they know it yet to say, I don't want to do that. And I encourage that in my kids. If you don't want to do it, that's okay. You know, we'll take those baby steps. We can climb up to, you know, two steps up the jungle gym or going to the gym, for example. My girls usually love working out with me and they do a kids class at the gym. But if they don't want to that day, that's okay. We'll go. We'll go to the gym. The first step is to just let's just go to the gym. I'm going to go. So you'll come with me? I'll just walk you into class. I'll sit next to you while you're stretching. And then that, you know, the courage builds up and then they decide to stay for the class that day. So a lot of it for me is letting their bodies intuition guide them and then they can develop their own courage.

Lunden Souza: [00:22:48] Mhm. I love that. I want to quote you. I don't know what exactly it was. I'm, I have to go back and listen, but really along the lines of like opting out and saying no and gut checking and being like that's not what I want to do is also courageous. I think kids of all ages need to hear that. Raising my hand, too, at the same time, because we can feel like courageous means something. And that's what I love about just words and mindset in general. It's like, can courageous mean something else? Okay, cool. What can it mean? Does your brain buy it? Are you with it? Okay, cool. Let's add that definition or let's add that to what that means for you. And I think boundaries are also super courageous too. So being able, like you said, to have that no moment or those boundaries so cool. I feel like I'm being parented by you sometimes. Amanda So I appreciate you.

Amanda Marchini: [00:23:37] I don't know. I don't know if I'm the expert on parenting. I'm not the expert on parenting. I know that for sure. But I appreciate that you you think I'm doing a good job, Right?

Lunden Souza: [00:23:48] And just like Janice said, it's like great to have the people around you. And I say that for myself, too, just like, Hey, you're doing great. And you're like, Oh, yeah. Are you sure? Okay, yeah, you're right. I trust you, you know? So I think we provide that for each other a lot. Let's talk about self-love a little bit because that's a title of my podcast, Self Love and Sweat. And I love hearing unique definitions of what self-love is, too. Yeah, wonderful Women like you. So what would be your definition of self-love? And then what are like certain practices or things that you do to love on you? Jana, you want to start?

Jana Mowrer: [00:24:25] Yeah. Oh, great question. So I think it comes down to honoring my own needs and it can be really easy to like put all these other priorities first or feel like they have a higher level of importance. And when and again, I work within the frame of coaching, right, because do a lot of coaching. And so I always share with my coaching clients and I feel like sometimes I'm sharing it with myself as well, is that you are the secret sauce of everything that happens. So if you are not taking care of yourself, it's not going to work. And so it's a reminder that. Self-love is a reminder that you are a priority, that you have worth, that you have value, that you have needs, and that you can honor those needs while also honoring other people. Because I think that the whole narrative, one of the narratives that I don't like the shift of with self-love is that you have to be number one and number one all the time in order to be doing it right. And that's not right. Like that's not accurate. Like there are other priorities and sometimes you might be number three or 4 or 5, but how do you realign yourself so that you still know that you are a priority? I think is the big shift. So really being able to honor my own needs because I am a human, I have a soul, I have wants, needs and desires as well as everyone else too. So that's that's really the narrative that I share.

Amanda Marchini: [00:25:57] Mhm. Love it.

Lunden Souza: [00:25:59] What about you, Amanda?

Amanda Marchini: [00:26:00] I think of the analogy.

Amanda Marchini: [00:26:02] Like, um. Like you can't pour into an empty cup. So for me, self love is being able to care for myself and pour into myself enough so that I'm overflowing so that I can care for others, so that I can take care of my kids and, you know, be a supportive wife and be a good friend still and, you know, do my own work, business and coaching and all the things. And so if I am empty, I can't give to anyone else. So self love is and I have to gut check myself. I do. And you know, it's easy to start prioritizing everyone else first. But. I can tell when I'm empty, when I'm getting low and need to give myself that self love. Get more sleep, you know? Am I. Am I doing all the things that I'm teaching others to do? Or am I so busy doing all the things helping everyone else that I'm neglecting myself and I'm not even doing these things that I'm teaching, right? And that's like that integrity piece that Janet was mentioning. So it's so funny how it's all, like, so encompassing, right, in this realm of health and wellness and, um, yeah, So I think can I pour into others? Do I have enough to pour into others and what do I need to do for myself so that I can if I'm not able to?

Lunden Souza: [00:27:26] And you said like, just gut check yourself and see what you might need in that moment. And it could be sleep. It could be like probably a lot of things that, you know, contribute to a fuller cup and just slowing down enough to be like, okay, where's my tank at? Where's the gauge at? Right. As we talked about with Janet of like some of those feelings that can be that gauge to like is it time to fill up have I been and I love. The idea of like gladly taking like third or fourth, fourth place in a particular situation because in like there's moments where, yeah, it is of the greater good of the entire situation. If I sit in third or fourth place, right, like being the cheerleader, like in the background and being the advocate and seeing how that can help. And then there's moments where it's like, Yeah, no, I need that first place and I'm going to be first place here. And seeing it for the bigger picture of the outcome, not just like, you know, I need to be first in all things and me first and that's it. There's really a lot of greatness that can come when we do take that second, third or whatever place, you know, the back seat, if you will. And, you know, then we know what things we need to take the front seat on.

Lunden Souza: [00:28:35] When I think of self-love, like for me, there was a lot on my previous definition that I felt like wasn't serving me as much of self-love. There was like a lot of doing on the list. It was like, you know, this wellness. Like it was a lot of like self-care, self-love, and it was like so much. And so for me, self-love at least the definition that I think of when I created this podcast, when I think about it for myself, is like grace and remembering that like, hey, in the process, like nurture and love on you too, because there are so many thoughts that come all from all over the place. Sometimes like a machine gun and sometimes like a, you know, a grenade out of nowhere. And having that grace to be like, okay, you know, I don't have to believe everything. And in this process, like kind of being able to step out and be like, okay, have grace, you don't have to do anything. You know, just acknowledging kind of like where you're at and loving on that is love. And so I just shared that answer to this particular question because I'm sure someone's listening where it's like, I don't have time for self love and I'm doing all these things and it's like, Wait, it can mean just having grace for where you're at and like loving on yourself a little bit when thoughts decide they want to like, yeah, beat you up a little bit.

Lunden Souza: [00:29:55] So that's what I think of when it comes to self-love. Um, last question. So we talked about kind of, yeah, limiting beliefs or not necessarily specific ones, but like keep on going on despite what might be happening, you know, any feelings we might be having, how we, you know, things that might be going on in our own personal life like that, that desire yet that struggle to show up. And I'm sure somebody listening is in that space, too, where they're like, I want to put myself out there, or I do. But then it's like the consistency. I don't know. What would you say to that person listening who has a desire to show up and yeah, provide value or help someone who might be struggling in a similar way that you were and they have, you know, that, that, yeah, that feeling and maybe they're struggling with staying consistent or taking that first step. And I guess potentially that's like our former selves or maybe some, some of our current selves depending on which day, right? So like, what would you say to that person?

Amanda Marchini: [00:30:59] I can. I'll take this one first. I think for me.

Amanda Marchini: [00:31:04] Reminding myself that. I have a message that I have value, that I have impact, and that someone out there needs to hear it from me. You can Google anything these days, right? You can find anything you need. The answers are out there somewhere, but someone needs to hear it from me. They might have heard, you know, 50 times to move your body or to drink more water or to do X, Y, z. But it's something about my message I feel like is going to click with the right person, even if it's that one person. Um, I read a book, Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert. I don't know if either of you have read it.

Lunden Souza: [00:31:50] But I love Elizabeth Gilbert, so I'm excited to get my hands on that one.

Amanda Marchini: [00:31:53] So she had this is like the biggest takeaway. I literally don't remember anything else from the book except for this one part, she says.

Amanda Marchini: [00:32:01] Like the universe puts.

Amanda Marchini: [00:32:03] Ideas in our heads, right? The universe gives us our creativity, our. Our gifts. And if we don't take it, then it's going to pass us by. And the universe is going to literally give it to someone else. And Elizabeth said that she had this idea for this book and she really wanted to write it. And she had everything planned out. The characters like the plot, everything. And she just didn't do it. She didn't go forward with it. Well, then she met in her writers field. She met another author, and they started talking about this book that they were writing. And Elizabeth was like, That's my book. That's literally my book, like to a T, that is my book. And so that's the idea that, like, the universe gave her book to someone else. She didn't write it. And so it went somewhere else. And I.

Amanda Marchini: [00:32:49] Feel like.

Amanda Marchini: [00:32:50] I don't want to ever miss that opportunity for the universe to give my message or what I was meant to do to someone else.

Amanda Marchini: [00:33:03] Mhm. Yeah.

Lunden Souza: [00:33:06] I love that.

Jana Mowrer: [00:33:10] Amanda, I need to, like, sit with that for a little bit because that is. That's so good, right? Like. And that's so true. So true. I think I would add to that is that feelings aren't facts. That has been I would say in my own journey, my feelings were getting in the way of facts. And so it prevented me. Like I could not see myself clearly to be able to move forward. And so I'm such a proponent of individuals doing the the internal work like the mental health work, the emotional work, the relationship work, because so often those are the things that hold us up, not because you aren't good enough, like you, like you are good enough. Like you have everything. You you you have everything you need to have everything that you want. But often we get in our own ways because of those feelings that come up that are based on like old wounds or, you know, just things that we've experienced and the narrative that we put behind them. And so I tell myself that like 20 million times a day, feelings aren't facts and then work to find the facts. And I would say that it's really helpful, like for someone that wants to step out and, you know, do their own thing or whatnot, get into community because the community is going to help provide you with a reflection back that is more accurate than what you can probably give to yourself. And so community is so, so important to be able to share the frustration, share the thoughts, and then be able to rework them because we can only do so much on our own. And then we need other people. So I would say those two things feelings aren't facts and getting community.

Lunden Souza: [00:35:02] Love it. Thank you guys so much for everything, for just being who you are, because, yeah, from an Observer's perspective, it's so fun to watch and also informative and valuable to like, yeah, follow what you guys are doing and then spending time here talking with you guys today, not just for this podcast but for both of your guys's podcast too. So if you guys liked this conversation, there's more we're going to be over on Jana's podcast and on Amanda's podcast. So thank you both so much for being here. Um, let's finish by you telling everyone, Yeah, where they can find you on social media podcast, etcetera. And then if they want to hear us talk some more, they can hop over to your guys's podcast. Do you want to start?

Amanda Marchini: [00:35:44] Amanda Yeah.

Amanda Marchini: [00:35:45] So I am. It's Amanda Marchini on Instagram and my podcast is the one where you live. Well, a little friends reference there. Um.

Amanda Marchini: [00:35:59] That's where I'm, that's where I am. I'm on.

Amanda Marchini: [00:36:01] Instagram. Um, so those are going to be the easiest two places to find me.

Jana Mowrer: [00:36:06] Cool. Yeah, you can find me on Instagram at Jana Mauer and then also on the Nourish You podcast.

Lunden Souza: [00:36:15] Thank you guys so much. And thank you guys for listening. I'll link all of the social media handles and podcast links in the description, as well as the other episodes where you can hear on both Jenna's and Amanda's podcast. Thank you guys for listening and thank you both so much for being here. Bye. Thank you so much for listening to this episode of Self Love and Sweat the podcast. Hey, do me a favor. Wherever you're listening to this podcast, give us a review. This really helps a lot. And share this with a friend. I'm only one person, and with your help, we can really spread the message of self-love and sweat and change more lives all around the world. I'm Lunden Souza reminding you that you deserve a life full of passion, presence and purpose, fueled by self love and sweat. This podcast is a Hitspot Austria production.