Self Love & Sweat The Podcast
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Self Love & Sweat The Podcast
Balancing Fatherhood & Self Improvement with Brysen Partridge
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Balancing fatherhood, self improvement, healing from heart break and building your dream business. In this episode we are covering all of it with Lunden’s neighbor, close friend and founder of Vixo Link, Brysen Partridge. This is such a beautiful, raw, vulnerable and authentic conversation…you’re not going to want to miss this episode.
Brysen Partridge is a single father, incredible cook, founder of Vixo Link and one of the most open, honest and vulnerable guys you will ever meet. He’s Lunden’s new neighbor in Utah and their deep personal conversations sparked the idea that they should record their raw, open conversations for the podcast. This episode is exactly that.
Check out Brysen's company Vixo Link: https://www.vixolink.com/
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0:00 Intro
2:45 FREE Self Love & Sweat MONTHLY Calendar
10:35 Finding Hope After Loss
14:49 Rebuilding The Process and Chasing Dreams As A Single Dad
30:39 Healing From Emotional Trauma with Reiki
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47:47 Building Resilience As A Single Parent
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Lunden Souza:Welcome back to Self Love and Sweat THE PODCAST. Today my guest is my neighbor, my new neighbor since moving to Utah, Brysen Partridge. And we met because one of my friends was visiting and we were at the park one day and my friend and Brysen met and became friends and she was like, oh my gosh, you have to meet Brysen. He's awesome, he's like on this healing journey. You guys would totally resonate.
Lunden Souza:And, to be honest, I was kind of like when I first moved here I was like, no, I don't want to meet anybody, I just like want to like do my thing, I just want to work on myself. I just like don't need any friends at the moment and I was like a little bit anti, just to be honest. And then I'm so grateful that Cara was adamant that we met, because you've truly changed my life. Like I can't imagine being in Utah without your friendship. And you've met, you've introduced me to your group of friends.
Lunden Souza:You know, you're the reason why now I go to the breath work and cold plunge place that I go to and I feel like you've opened up my mind and my heart to like it's really hard making friends as adults. I don't know if you've experienced that, but it's like I've moved around a lot and it's not always easy making close friends and good friends as an adult. It's like kind of weird. It's like you're playing in kindergarten all over again. But I feel like the second you and I met, we just like automatically clicked, like I know we'll be friends for like ever. Like I'm calling that now and it was actually your idea, Brysen, to do this podcast, because him and I will often walk together around the lake and these are the types of conversations you and I have all the time. So it's kind of just putting a microphone to the conversations that you and I always have. So thank you for being here and thank you for you.
Brysen Partridge:No, thank you. I mean, it was just a great way how we met and it's only grown. I think we called out when we were walking around the lake one time where we were laughing because we said that like we're going to be lifetime friends, yeah, we just knew it because our conversations go so deep and so just genuine. It blew my mind when we were just talking and met and just it continues to grow.
Lunden Souza:Yeah, and I remember the first time you and I hung out after I had met you and we were all hanging out with my friend Cara, we went stand- up paddle boarding and it was like in the evening and we just like went stand up paddle boarding and you immediately opened up about your pain, which I thought was so awesome, because I think sometimes people and you know those listening probably, you know you kind of are hesitant, most people to like, share and expose like what's really going on in your life and what's really hard. And you were not that way at all. It was like this is who I am, this is what I've gone through and I know that that's what we're going to dive into and talk about today, because you were in real estate and then you've started this tech software company. But I know, because we talk all the time, that it's not because you, you know, had this easy road and it was just like ooh, tech startup and like smooth sailings.
Lunden Souza:I know you've gone through a lot of shit and I know that when we kind of set our intention of what we wanted to talk about today on the podcast, it was like let's talk about the real shit and so I'm just going to pass it over to you. Like, what has your journey been like? Like, what have the last five or six months years been like for you, and what do you feel like has led you up to this moment?
Brysen Partridge:I don't know. I'll start with that one because let's just say, 2023 has been one for the records and now we always have like one year. But this year I couldn't. I can't put on a scale because starting this year, I started this this year working as a different company, been working for the last three years, so I'm working my company totally for like almost four years, started it and went with a different partner that was out of Texas and just he wasn't doing the stuff.
Brysen Partridge:I trusted him so much to do his thing that we were doing and get Beta clients and grow because our vision that we built was there. And after months of him always throwing things aside, not letting things actually be productive, and me always like fighting with the customer, hey, this is going to be done soon, this is going to be done soon, this is going to be done soon. He never did it. So eventually, towards the end of May and June of this year, I had to cut ties and just drop it. So this project, my baby that I've had for three years, that one thing in life where you really you know there's so many ideas, where you have an idea and you're like, oh, I should have acted on that. It's a dumbest thing and you see it five years later. Someone did it on TV. You're like they're worth millions.
Brysen Partridge:Now, I had that idea five years ago because you never took action on it. This is that idea of my software company that I took that action and ran with it and presented this to my partner in 2020. And he I called him out of the blue, just on a personal cell, as they hate, you want to do this concept. And he's like, hell, yeah, I mean, all right, let's develop this, built it, then, come end of 2022, launch, go live. He's like, hey, all we need to be beta clients, let's go live.
Brysen Partridge:Then came to that same progress didn't do his continued work and we had clients that weren't asking for things. So I shut things down with him in May and June and I was devastated. Like you're looking at hundreds of thousands of dollars and hours spent for nothing and that vision that that that I took, that that we was gone. And on top of it, I got a different job offer to kind of help subsidize because I've only been just paying this out of pocket and we worked for him for one day and they fired me because I thought I still work for this different company or conflict and interest than that. On top of that, I lost, like, the love of my life that I've been with for a year and a half with that and just devastated. So doing all this stuff, looking, I remember looking at my bank account in June or end of June versus July I had negative $10.87. No cash around the house anymore, credit cards maxed. Like I've been working this journey for three years with no other pay. Like how do I even feed my kids? What do they need gas to go pick them up? Like I was like I'm at a breaking point and I didn't know what to do. I was in the biggest hole that I've ever been in my life and it still brings me so emotional, still with it because it was so impactful and hard.
Brysen Partridge:Most people at that point, when you lose all three of those pillars. And like my health wasn't the best, like I was okay but I was drinking at times. I didn't like trying to numb to try and like figure things out. I remember sitting on the porch at six through the morning still drinking wine. It wasn't that it woke up and drank. I didn't sleep. Like how mind blowing is that they just could not sleep because all this stuff's going on. And finally had the idea from thankfully for my partner overseas that I worked with them before my developing guy. He called me and he's like do what happened. Like we're so close. I know we ran out of this because this and this, this wasn't done.
Brysen Partridge:And he's like what have we trying to do it? I'm like, are you?
Lunden Souza:willing to do that with me.
Brysen Partridge:He's like, yes, okay, let me see what I can find. We see what cash I can find. So thankfully this might bring me the tears a little bit thankfully my dad I called him out of the blue and he knows of my journey, he knows what I've been doing. And I called him like, hey, I need some cash, and not just some cash, like I need a decent chunk to restart and rebuild. Because if I restart rebuild, then I have this opportunity to go either one, get my customers and go, or two, find investors that are already going to look at me, that really fund us fully. And I remember talking to him and he's okay, let me see what I can do. He went and did something beyond, above and beyond, I should say just cashed out one of his huge shares of stocks. He's a super, super conservative guy, super, no risk whatsoever kind of person just cashed out one of his 401Ks and gave me a big chunk of money. It wasn't what I really needed or wanted, but enough, am I? Okay, this will do.
Brysen Partridge:And I remember sitting the first part of July or mid-July on my computer for 17, 18 hours straight just working and building the new software, because if I built it better and defined it better to my dev team.
Brysen Partridge:There's less dev conversation back and forth so that it gets done quicker. So every little button, everything that did something, everything that was linked to something, everything that was linked to a different aggregator or contract or something, was listed and just made it so clear as much as I possibly could. So it's not doing any kind of the rework or redevelopment with anything. And I remember a couple of days I was at my desk with all these sticky notes and, coming from that guy, you should always have it online but sticky notes help break down your buckets. So I have all these sticky notes all over my desk and just crossed one off at a time. But there was probably 20 to thirty sticky notes all over my computers, monitors, everything you could possibly think of, and just one at a time checked, checked, checked, checked and kept moving forward and it was just. I remember just one morning was sobbing, just pretty much crying, like so overwhelmed, and I had no support and no one like that partner that I had in my life that was gone, had no support whatsoever.
Brysen Partridge:I have amazing, amazing friends that you've met now but, it's still different when you don't have that light, that partner that was there, that I back you. Like you don't have that and they have it, and I just remember, just like just crying, overwhelmed.
Lunden Souza:Just like rock bottom.
Brysen Partridge:Rock bottom, and all I had was my little sticky notes.
Lunden Souza:And so one at a time. It was just like sticky note do it, toss it.
Brysen Partridge:Sticky note, toss it, sticky note, toss it, sticky note, toss it, Just moving forward that way and I really started a different kind of journey, in the mornings too, of really getting up. I always got up early. I'm always a morning person, yeah, you are. But I stepped that up a little bit more and really got up to like, okay, I'm going to get up and follow more of the, the miracle mornings style. Get up. I don't touch my phone in the morning as much, which is weird because I don't sleep often because my dev team's 12 hours different than me, so I'm always going to ping that one, two, three in the morning. But when I wake up in the morning, when I'm getting up, I don't check my phone or go into things too deep. You don't check social, don't check my emails. I'll wake up and I instantly come downstairs, drink some water and I go for a walk. I do an hour walk every morning now, just listening to books.
Brysen Partridge:I think I'm on my 26th book now in the last five months.
Lunden Souza:Yeah, you read a ton and I know that about you because we live, we're neighbors, so we like how walk the same loop and there's like this, like unspoken agreement I don't think you and I have ever talked about this, but like your first walk is for you and so there was one time when we were walking and I like passed by you but I just like not knew better, it was early, whatever but I was like, oh no, this is like not the time to be like what's up, Brysen, how's it going, how's your day? It was just kind of like what's up and keep walking. And I love that you take that time for you. And you're a bookworm, like I love how many books you read and how much you fly through books and how much wisdom you gain from them. And this is new.
Brysen Partridge:So to anyone that wants to really know like anyone can do this kind of stuff, this is new. Like I'm not a reader I'm not a reader whatsoever I read my first book Cover The Cover. I don't think I've ever told anyone this. I read my first book Cover The Cover when I was almost 20. Cause I flew through high school, all these, I faked everything.
Brysen Partridge:I realized that it wasn't about the curriculum that you're learning. You don't have to learn that. It's about impressing the teacher. And the teacher is just a simple being that if you just impress what they want on their high spots, you pass. So we're in that at such a small age of like it doesn't matter what you learn, press that person, that's your grade. It's like a huge problem with our system. But now, reading and spending that time for myself in the mornings and then a meditation I don't know why we do not teach this younger, why it blows my mind of why we do not teach meditation and self love younger. I get our systems so screwed up and wants to keep them in the debt system like our government loves this kind of style, but why we do not teach this to our kids.
Lunden Souza:I know is my employee and I loved seeing your stories the other day on Instagram when you were on that vacation with your family, and then there was a picture of your kids like meditating and you were showing them and teaching them. I had a guest on my podcast before where we talked about that. She's an advocate for mental health and advocating for some of those tools in like elementary school, junior, high and high school. For, like, why don't we have a meditation class? Why don't we have a breathwork class? Why don't we have a emotional intelligence class? Or like a way to navigate your emotions and understand your intuition a little bit more. Is that like a huge passion of yours now to teach your kids? It is.
Brysen Partridge:It comes from a different. I got to back up on that a little bit because if you would have talked to me five and a half years ago, when I started going through my divorce, where my ex-wife just took my kids from me the one thing that, as you know, like means the most to me she knew how to hurt me the most. So I go from a full time dad to less than part time dad. I see my kids for two hours on a Wednesday and I'm driving, and I'm driving there. So just lost all this time.
Brysen Partridge:And I was it's not to say I was that same style of person. Like what's this new age voodoo bullshit? Like just was met, met a commander? Just some hippie? No, like what is wrong with our culture? It is not that way whatsoever. And I finally feel like it's somewhat grasping, but it's not. It's still kind of like rolling a little bit more. But the reason, I don't know why we don't teach this and grow with it because, like I said, you would have asked me before my marriage, or even like five and a half years ago, before I would have been like you're, I'm not gonna do this. And it wasn't until I met and went out of my comfort zone. After being super, I'm, super, super down while I'm, I just have my kids ripped from me being at home, from being a dad that I finally met a neighbor at a bar and they're like hey, are you part of this group? No, and they finally threw this like different cooking group a chili cook off with these neighbors.
Lunden Souza:By the way, Brysen's an excellent cook. Plug.
Brysen Partridge:So they threw this group gathering with some neighbors and my, okay, I'm going to go. Know, no one there, right, just like that being comfortable, uncomfortable situation, just go and go, go and meet, go, meet some amazing people, talk to them, and then I get a couple of people reaching out to me after the fact and they must have sensed me like some aspect right, you okay, you all right, I'm okay, I'm okay, just doing this. And they, finally, my first exposure into new age, or say old age meditation stuff, is sound bath, like, hey, we're going to do a sound bath on Sunday. You want to come?
Lunden Souza:Did you know what that was?
Brysen Partridge:Hell, no, no way. Like I was that typical dude. Just there's so many people that can probably relate to this and like, no, what's this shit Like? But being so vulnerable at that time and growing with that, like, okay, what's the worst to try? So I wouldn't try it, I'm like Holy shit, that was really impactful.
Brysen Partridge:I went in this weird kind of trance. I remember falling asleep because I kind of snoring, but I was actually visually seeing myself snore, like no one hears himself snore. I did like where was I at? I still can't grasp that still. And that started beyond okay, there might be something else to this stuff. And then I went and did a reiki and energy cleanse with another neighbor. She does this and I didn't know what. It was Still new age, new kid, like just whatever, voodoo, whatever, didn't care, okay, go, and I'm laying in there on the table and I didn't want reiki. And my buddy was saying I'm going to do reiki on you, okay, whatever, laying on the table. I thought I honestly thought I should never experience. I have actually only said this. Maybe I have two people. Funny thing is on a podcast now.
Lunden Souza:Right Letting it out.
Brysen Partridge:Yeah, so I was laying there on the table and she was doing her energy cleanse and put some crystals and I felt this pressure on my feet and like someone grasping the bottom of my feet with their thumbs, the bottom of my hands over the top of your feet, thumbs on the bottom, just grasping, but as the super, super, super loving care, like okay, this is reiki. Cause I know, and I was just laying there with my eyes closed and open my eyes, just going through the whole thing and cleansing this chakra, blah, blah, blah. And she mentioned something to say, hey, your grandpa's here with you, cause she's kind of like a half medium to my heart and me still new age, kind of like whatever, like I believe there's energy and other stuff, but this is whatever. And I'm like, okay, cool, just going through it, just going through it, and I still feel this nice calming pressure on the bottom of my feet. Oh, that's, that's my neighbor, he's, he's touching my feet, that's reiki.
Brysen Partridge:For some reason, halfway or more than halfway through this session of cleanse, I open my eyes, just just the peak. All right, what's going on? The Jared beat at the bottom of my feet and there was no one there, right?
Lunden Souza:Cause I, from what I understand, Reiki, you don't even touch the body.
Brysen Partridge:No, you don't touch people. Yeah, he's 15 feet away over here on this other couch what the hell. And I just had an epiphany there at that time like whoa. There's something more To this realm that we don't know because I wasn't close to my grandpa at this time, but I know my grandpa supported it, just didn't have a way he's. He's kind of like my dad in some aspects and hopefully we get better with generations, of more openness, because me and my dad still don't even say like I love you or different things once in a while. We just don't we know it but we don't say it.
Brysen Partridge:Okay, and that's different, and that comes from generations. I mean you look at all the generation like man up is like them, saying I love you. Yeah 30, 40 years ago.
Lunden Souza:It's like yeah, older generation translation dictionary man up equals. I love you, equals, you're worth it, you can do it. Yeah right, so easy.
Brysen Partridge:That was something that really started me down that energy path of like okay.
Lunden Souza:There's something else here.
Brysen Partridge:Yeah, the layer on top of everything I went through and then later now coming back full speed to 2023 mid-year, like doing everything and restarting my company scratch.
Lunden Souza:Congrats on that, by the way.
Brysen Partridge:Thanks, like that's. It's been something else, like I said, a demo earlier today and they're like whoa, you have something yeah.
Lunden Souza:Yeah, and you, I feel like I mean, I feel like I've known you for a hundred years, but I've only known you for like a few months. So, but I feel like the last few months have been like you've been busting your ass, you've gone through so much shit and and correct me if I'm wrong, but from my perception, you've always believed in what you're creating. You've never, even though your first business partner it didn't work out, the second time the dev wasn't doing what he was supposed to. Like there could have been all the reasons for you to like I don't know, ask yourself like is this even a freaking good idea? Like is this?
Lunden Souza:I don't feel like you've ever thought that you've always, at least in your communication with me, been like no, like so excited when you talk about the capabilities of this software, like so much in belief of what you can, and then, over the last few months, as you've gotten your investors got the ball rolling. You're gonna speak at an event coming up soon, like all these things. It doesn't seem, even in the depths of your pain and soul, that we've shared with one another. Like it doesn't seem that You've ever thought that that wasn't what you were supposed to be doing, am I wrong?
Brysen Partridge:No, you're right. but also talking deeper on that, I've had myself doubts. Yeah, I mean we all have a self doubt. I mean I have one of my journal right in front of you, like there's a big page in here that says Fuck doubt fuck doubt.
Lunden Souza:I love that you brought your journal with you.
Brysen Partridge:This is good. That was a huge thing. That because, also, when you build something, I this reality check. A year ago, when I finally launched my first version, I Went to a sales pitch and I go like botched it because I had so much of the one thing and that for agreements, I like love them up. I assumed so much. Because I built something that had so many assumptions I did not have the proper cells pitch.
Lunden Souza:Like you assumed that they knew more than they knew, or what did you assume?
Brysen Partridge:Well, I assume that they're gonna know my software what it needs to be and not take it back to the basics, not building it or not explaining it to what it was actually built for and going back to like here's your need, here's your want, here's the solution. I was way in the solution side and didn't come back to be like the basics of selling. So it's kind of like instantly flying over their head. A little bit I'm like whoa, like Brysen, you gotta take a step back. And that was a huge punch in the face. A little bit like whoa, I gotta come back to my sales pitch. What if I'd never? What if I was just hired on this company, just hired on a Vixo Link? What would I start? How would I pitch this? I'd come back to all those different basics and and that was a huge awakening of like, all right, just cuz you build something great Doesn't mean it's pitched, that it's developed that way. So that was hard. That was a huge real I check.
Lunden Souza:Yeah, yeah, I want to take it back just to share some personal experiences, because this is the first time you've shared some of these Things. I know you said it's like the more than two people you've told so here.
Lunden Souza:We are on the podcast but I had a similar experience with what you mentioned about Reiki, because my cousin does Reiki and when I was living in San Clemente I would go to his house and even when I go back I'll do sessions with him. But I had that experience. I was sitting in a chair, I had my eyes closed and I could have sworn. He had both hands on my shoulders, like pressing down, like almost borderline, like it felt good, like a massage, you know, there was like a little squeeze to it and I remember same thing, just kind of like peeking open, and he was on the other side of the room with some like metal things doing something in the corner and I remember being like, oh, I could have sworn that your hands were on my shoulders. And he goes oh, those are just my little helpers. And I was like, oh, okay, and that wasn't my that. I'm sorry, I don't know if I said that was my first. That wasn't my first experience with Reiki. My first experience was when I lived in Austria. She had explained to me like I'm not gonna put hands on you, whatever, I'm just, this is all energy, blah, blah, blah. Great experience, awesome thing. But then when I went to go see my cousin. It was more like for a healing experience. I don't think I specifically knew what modalities he was using and whatnot, but still same feeling where I like felt that presence and that pressure on my shoulders and it helped me like like relax my shoulders and drop down a little bit, and so that was super powerful. And I remember after that just like I don't, yeah, like never seeing healing the same, never seeing it as like matter changing matter, like physical hands need to touch in order to feel this physical sensation on your body. And then to your other point of I love you and kind of that ancestral passed down like my Moms. Parents never told her that, like I love you. They never said that and my parents always told me I love you and I heard that a lot.
Lunden Souza:But now I've, like proactively, I say I love you to my grandparents now, like purposely, knowing that they yeah, like with some intention behind it, like knowing that they don't say that very often I say that to them and I remember doing it, like at Christmas one time Because they were giving out gifts, whatever, and I like hugged them and I was like thank you, I love you. And I just noticed, like the other people in the room kind of like Ugh, like what did she just say to grandma and grandpa? Like that word exchange between them hadn't been said and now I still say it to them. I actually just called my grandma and grandpa on Sunday when I was walking back from the gym and I just like come in to call them and my grandma will say it back to me. Now she says I love you. My grandpa won't, but I still say it to him. I'm still like I love you and he'll be like okay, bye, you know, and just like gets off the phone quickly.
Lunden Souza:But I think it's beautiful that you said that, because I know that you tell your kids I love you all the time and like you're, yeah, such a hands-on, loving dad in a new way. And not to say that there's anything wrong with the way our parents did things. It's just like they did the best with the tools that they had. But I Resonate with that too and now I kind of purposely like Stir the pot a little bit, but I genuinely love them. So of course I'm not lying, but it's interesting to Just, yeah, tap into that generation.
Lunden Souza:You know that were were born. You know my grandpa is 87, 88, now my grandma 83. So it's like they were on that same dictionary that you mentioned before of like get to work, do a good job, put forth your effort, you know, build the business like that was the form of I love you and I care about you. But that really spoke to me too, because now I just am like no, I'm just not gonna not say I love you, but I don't think my grandpa has ever said it back to me. But my grandma, she'll say it back now, which is very interesting. So I'm like cool, I cut that little tie or broke that chain just a little bit, and maybe I never will with my grandpa, but I'm like, okay, that's fine, I'm still gonna say it either way.
Brysen Partridge:Can we also break the chain on this a little bit too, and break this out of like If you truly love someone, I get it. Yeah, your friends like, hey, I love you. If you really love them, say I love you, put the damn I there, tell them that is the most simple concept but means so much more right then like love you, or love you yeah.
Brysen Partridge:I feel it right If you put that I love you compared to love you, love you, way different. Isn't that the? I Don't know that there's a way different concept of that.
Lunden Souza:It sits different with me too, and I think I probably choose my I love you's more wisely than my love you's. Now that I think about it, because I really love a lot of people and I'll tell, yeah, like I'll tell people love you or love you or something, but that I love you. I know everybody's different in their models of the world, but like I think we're on the same page with that. Like, put the eye when you really Make the initiative like, just like I.
Lunden Souza:I love you. Where did you so? You mentioned that you joined the because you're very like and I love this about you like it's so good like you're very open, you're very vulnerable, you're very honest, you're very like this is me You're very unapologetic with where you're at and who you are like. You even said my bank account was at negative ten dollars and eighty seven cents, and I think that's more naked than more most people will ever be willing to get, and I hope that people listening right now Are, just like you know, borderline in tears right now, like me too. Oh my gosh.
Lunden Souza:Thank you, Brysen, for like saying what we all have experienced and you mentioned. You know that your upbringing wasn't as open and is vulnerable and things like that. And I know every time I have and I shared this with you before every time I have a male guest on the podcast that opens up and is vulnerable, I get so many messages, so many DM, so many emails from a lot of men actually who are like girl, you need to have more men on your podcasts. You know Like we need more men opening up, being honest, open, vulnerable, all the things. Did you set out to teach yourself that, or did it just sort of come with this like sound bath experience and then the reiki, like because you Are so open and that's what I, yeah, I love.
Lunden Souza:I think that's what's what's allowed us to be such deep friends so quick, because you're not like Dude, the weather is nice today. Or how about them Dodgers? You know, we're very much like dude. I read this book or I went to this breathwork class and I like had this profound experience. Like Do you, did you set out to teach yourself this? Or like how, how does someone listening who's not there yet? Like what do they do?
Brysen Partridge:open up this, punch me in the face, and I guess that comes back to us being make sure you're open to receive, because it's punch me in the face, open to receive.
Lunden Souza:I.
Brysen Partridge:Did, wasn't that way? I was closed off, very guarded, very walled defense, you name it for years, walls up. I still feel like I do have some walls, but I'm trying to break those down even more and like what that opens up because I just did this, this mindset retreat and going there, my okay, I'm gonna go try this crazy thing with people and like just self-centered, meditate with people and went down there and had this profound, profound thing because I know they're gonna make me state my intentions, which I'm not a big public speaker.
Lunden Souza:Don't really care too, oh you mean, like when you got there in the group then you knew you were gonna have to go around and be like hi, my name is Brysen and here's why I'm here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Brysen Partridge:I went down there okay, here's my intention. And I forgot what my intention really was going down there, that I was gonna make okay this is what I planned. This is what I'm gonna say, because it's robotic, I can say this really quick and it's gonna sound, it's gonna sound good, and I go down there and I could not say it, I couldn't say the robotic.
Brysen Partridge:So my, now I'm saying the intention that how many people? Now my intentions were to be to make empathy and vulnerability my strengths preach, so that I always thought those as weaknesses. And I don't know whether they're culture. I always thought those as weaknesses. They are not. They are really not. They are so many different strengths with us and you can always go above and beyond with those. And that kind of leads into something else too is I was walking around the lake reading one of my books a few years, a few months ago, and I'm sure a lot of people can relate to this is we set these milestones in life I don't know if it's our culture like, hey, once you graduate elementary school, it's good.
Brysen Partridge:Once you graduate high school, great. Once you get your degree, great. Once you achieve this, great, that's like you're selling. Once you retire, great, you can just chill and relax. I think we have this kind of mindset that we can do that. That doesn't exist. That's the complete bullshit of our culture 100% Like that does not exist. Like you got. Once you realize there's no ceiling, it's only selling you putting yourself Like there's no ceiling Doesn't exist, go, that changes your life dramatically, doesn't matter in any relationship business, finance, family, doesn't matter. There's no ceiling, just growth.
Lunden Souza:Absolutely. I echo everything that you said. What does making empathy and vulnerability your strength look like in action? Like, what are you doing when you are making it your strength?
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Brysen Partridge:I'm still working on that because it's still but a vulnerability.
Lunden Souza:I tell my kids every time I go to bed and just like we were talking about earlier, just I love you.
Brysen Partridge:I love you now it's, I love you and I show that. Talk to me. I mean, how nice is that comic? We are so privileged. If you don't, maybe it gets full time or half time or whatever. I walk in the middle of the night all the time just to go kiss my kids in the forehead. Talk to me and empathy. I shrug with empathy more because I'm very analytical, so that's a huge thing to me that trying to work on because I don't not saying I don't, but I struggle sometimes listening and receiving better, instead of like hurrying, like trying to like commander a, pitch it back to him like hey, no, you're, you're screwing up on this. No, I need to take that in more and really process that and then spit that back out in a better way. That's more receptive and that's. I think a lot of people struggle with empathy, with that. That's not just me, there's a lot of people that don't know how to be empathetic.
Lunden Souza:Yeah, in the right way and that receiving and I can see that in you in a good way too Like maybe you're highlighting some of the aggressive fix it, this is your problem tendencies. But I also think you're very like loving and let me help you and let me fix this and let me offer you my opinion, or like grace, or come over to my house for a meal or a lot of these things that I can see how that would be something that you're working on in terms of receiving and allowing people to help and heal. But one thing I do remember about you, as we were talking about it one time and I was like, yeah, maybe you were just sharing like some feelings of anxiety and stress that were going on in your life, and I was like, yeah, maybe you breathwork might be, you know, a good idea.
Lunden Souza:And I can, you know, guide you through some breathwork if you want to. And you're like, yeah, no, I don't want to do that. And now we're at breathwork together, and now you're showing up and doing that and at the end of our breathwork class we're just like, whoa, what was that experience like? Or you could tell there's so much introspection happening and in breathwork, I mean, david is our instructor at recoup wellness. He's so awesome and there's so much, I think, receiving in that. Right, I think, especially as I've gone multiple times to his class, like my subconscious mind starts to trust his voice even more, I start to surrender even more and there's so much more receiving in that. But I just share that because, like I see that in you, you're like way more open to receiving. You're like showing up to breathwork, you're doing the cold plunge, you're going to the yoga class, like doing all the things to like show up, you know, and it's really really inspiring, like really inspiring.
Lunden Souza:I think I tell you this to your face Well, I am to your face right now, but like off podcast, I tell you this too but it's really awesome. It's really inspiring to see, because I don't think there's enough men doing it Also who are willing to say like you did, like you said, you're like come over, let's podcast, like bring your microphone, like let's do this. I want to share this story. You and I have talked a lot about this off the podcast before and I just don't think there's enough men out there who are like wait, I'm not receiving enough. I want to receive, I want to be open, I want to be empathetic, I want to connect, I want to learn and I want to understand and like, as someone who's like your cheerleader on the sidelines, it's really fucking fun to watch.
Brysen Partridge:Yeah, I think men try to think they're tough. They know what they are, because breathwork not easy, let's face it. Breathwork is work and when I first did it the first time I did it. I know a lot of us struggle with like anxiety and different things. Whatever kind of culture we do it, it triggers some of that. But now doing it still triggers it. But guess what you fight through it? It's not going to kill you, it's not going to hurt you. It makes. It's just something you push away and you acknowledge and be aware and you can actually control it. You can really control that anxiety, that panic, that different things. You can throw it into a different realm and I don't think it's talked about and it scared me the first time I did it. Now that I do it I challenge myself. Every time I get it I have a different personality, like growth. But if you're not comfortable doing it, practice I mean it just helps.
Brysen Partridge:It really does, whether it comes to something so simple. But if you just practice and grow with it, it can help out a ton. And that doesn't even. You don't even like breathwork, you can go try something else, but it just changes something. I mean cold punch. I know it's like a huge, feels like a fad, but it's not a fad, it's really not. You look at, our ancestors. They call it cold punch technically for centuries.
Lunden Souza:Yeah, going into the cold water to get their fish.
Brysen Partridge:We have hot water running.
Brysen Partridge:Yeah, you're right and that actually brings me to something else that I found super profound, that I saw the other day I think I just talked to you about this the other day is depression, depression this monk was talking about it and I sent it to you like a real and depression is really not real, it's something we falsified.
Brysen Partridge:I mean, there's mental health, but depression how we gauge it is not there, because if you look back in like middle ages or Spartan ages or even 400 years ago, it didn't exist because people were busy, active, moving, and it stopped people from feeling depressed or anxiety. What really changed our culture is these damn screens, because now you can sit in front of a screen, tv, watch some bullshit, reality TV show order, door dash, order like mind suck and then your mind and your body falls into this different state of being and it's not healthy. That's our culture and if you're not aware of that, it's totally fine doing that once in a while. But if you're not aware of that, you don't fall into that. You get into this complacency realm which can really impact you and your family's life.
Lunden Souza:Yeah, it can really be easy to get sucked in, like comparing or thinking that what someone shares here or there, and I like what you mentioned before, where you're like in the morning I don't like tap into social media, email, all those things. And I think the way that you described it to me when you sent me that reel, or maybe what the monk said in the video, is like we didn't have the luxury back then to just sit and scroll and now we have this luxury. That's almost put us in this downward spiral of comparison and all the things and all the feels. And, like you mentioned, we don't want to discount anybody's struggles with mental health, but we also want to highlight like okay, and put your phone down and move and get outside and engage and put yourself out there and try again. And I think one thing you've done a really good job with, because you've introduced me to your friends and the people in your circles, is like you have really awesome people around you, really awesome people around you, and that says great things about them, but honestly, a lot more about you, because I came to your house on Halloween and I ride solo. You know me. I'm just like, oh, you want to go. You like invited me to a barbecue at your friend Becca's house and I met her friends through that and just like super cool that you've been able to cultivate this environment of people who, in your process of learning how to receive even better, like you, have great people pouring into you and I think sometimes people get stuck because they're like, oh, I tried to be vulnerable and I tried to open myself up but then I got shut down.
Lunden Souza:But then I got told you know, suck it up and what you're. You know you're being this or that, especially guys right who maybe are opening up. So anybody listening it might be time to up level your circle. And I remember there was a quote from Nipsey Hussle which was like this rapper I think he was a rapper that passed away and he said he's like if you look around at in your circle and you're not inspired, that's not a circle, that's a cage. And I think a lot of men and anybody, a lot of people we have to look around and realize, okay, like, do I have a circle or do I have a cage? Do I have people that are putting ceilings where they don't exist in my life or I'm allowing them to put ceilings in my life, or am I like running up the same wall and hitting my head over and over, like I'm trying to be vulnerable? But maybe you're trying to be vulnerable to the same people over and over and over again that aren't ready to like be there yet. And so if anybody listening feels that way, I often tell my clients this like go, put your ass where your heart wants to be. That's a title of a really good book that I read by Steven Pressfield.
Lunden Souza:It's like okay, and if your circle, you realize, is more of a cage, you have to go out and find those people. Where are they? Are they at breathwork class? Are they at meditation class? Are they, you know, in this men's group or whatever that you joined? And I know a few weeks ago you went to this healing group, this meditation place, and you didn't know anyone. And we were in the car one day and you were like, oh my gosh, I don't know anyone. I'm going to go there. I don't even know what I'm doing, like what you know, I don't know what it is, where it is, how it is. I'm just going to go. I just know I need to be there.
Lunden Souza:So sometimes it's less blaming and complaining about people that won't allow you to be vulnerable and more like, as I would say like put your big girl panties on and like go out and like find those people, like where are they hanging out?
Lunden Souza:Put yourself in those uncomfortable positions, because when you do that it's kind of like and you have kids I don't know if they're scared of the dark or they've ever been, but it's kind of like turning the light on and lifting up the you know the bottom of the bed or opening up the closet and being like see, there's no monster in there. It was just like a little fuzz and the way the light was catching it it made it this like big, profound thing, but really it's like it's nothing. It's just your own ceiling that you've put on yourself and I just want people listening to like go out there, do the thing, join the group, go to the men's group, the women's group, the circle, the healing center, the church, the yoga place and whatever you feel like where your people are, because once you have the awareness of the cage, whose fault is it now that you're still there, correct?
Brysen Partridge:Awareness is the biggest key. With that, you acknowledge that huge awareness is huge, and I live by a quote that I did six, seven years ago. And it's always hard, but be comfortable, uncomfortable, just do it. It changes your life. The matter what? Okay, I don't want to go to this group tonight. I don't want to do this breathwork class tonight. I don't want to do this super retreat or maybe I don't want to do like a journal or something simple at night, do it.
Lunden Souza:Do it Move that needle a little bit. One thing I want to, because I know you're going to go pick up your kids here soon and I want to honor your time and I want to kind of land the plane with them. I love how you parent, I love that you keep it real with your kids. I love that there's candy everywhere available to them. And when I've babysat them before they're like, can I have a tree? I'm like sure I have what you want, and then your daughter will come up and be like okay, well, I'm going to have a rice crispy and I'm only going to have half, because they just like know that things are available and not off limits and you're very open and things like that.
Lunden Souza:But growing up as someone who maybe didn't have the vulnerable open, I love you and a lot of those things. How do you want to pass on this vulnerability and empathy to your kids? How do we teach the younger generation that? What seeds are you planting in them now so that they don't have to wait? I think about my niece. She's five. I don't want her to have to wait until she's 30 to know what breathwork and emotional intelligence are. And she won't, because when I go home we do breathwork and different fun things together. Like how do you do that? Inspire parents listening? I'm not a parent so I can't preach. That's tough.
Brysen Partridge:That's really tough because I come from a different place of, so we'll take a bigger step back. This is another thing, I probably only told a handful of people.
Lunden Souza:Welcome to the mic. Yeah, yeah. So I'm going to tell you about my parents.
Brysen Partridge:Well, waking up or growing up. Growing up, my parents were always like cheap. We never had good candy, we never had stuff. If it was there, we'd just consume the hell out. Then I went to my cousin's house. My cousin's house was very different. They always had like the best candies readily available. They didn't eat it. They'd have it once in a while, but it wasn't something they were going to like strive and get. I would go to their house and get all of this stuff and I'd eat the hell out of it. It was something I didn't have. I realized that at such a young age, like 12 to 13,.
Brysen Partridge:Why am I doing this no-transcript, and why does my cousins not do this when they have that exposure and I don't know what it turns like. It's something with our culture or some of our heads that you, if it's there and you acknowledge it and be aware of it, it's okay. If it's not, sometimes it's not available that scarcity, you grab on that and you just suck it in as much as you can, as you can, and I think we do that in a lot of different aspects of life. Like, if it's there, I'm taking as much as I can. Right now.
Brysen Partridge:I'm filling my bag full right now and I pass it to my kids. Like you know what? There's good candy everywhere and they have this permission for themselves and from me hey, hey, should I have this much? No, or daddy, can I have this? Yeah, and given that full exposure shown out there helps it's. I think it helps out in a huge culture to other aspects of life, like here. You have so much of something, it can be a bad thing I think of. One of our book was Ed McManus we were talking about yeah, Irwin McManus.
Brysen Partridge:Irwin.
Lunden Souza:Sorry or no, you're right, edwin McManus, maybe it is Ed.
Brysen Partridge:Either way, I think his sister brother.
Lunden Souza:I think he doesn't remember.
Brysen Partridge:He refers to Ed in his book.
Lunden Souza:But anyways, We'll figure it out and put it in the show notes.
Brysen Partridge:He talked about a little bit of if you don't have it, you're going to go after it more. And am I okay If I put it out there? It's not going to be a bigger deal.
Brysen Partridge:Like, not so off limits, no, and it also teaches them self-control, because now they're coming to me and you, if anyone else here, by hey, can I have another candy? I'm going to have six pieces. Make an ironing Cool. We're not filling ourselves full of this crap, but it's still around and I don't want to try to hide that, because you're not going to get away from everything you have in our culture If you try and do that and hide so much of. Yeah, I got to stay away from gluten, gmos to who knows.
Lunden Souza:Yeah, or this TV show or this music or this. I kind of I had great parents but they were very strict with like certain things like that. And then the first thing I would do I would go to my cousin's house and put in the cool. I was on a list I allowed to listen to Coolio, and my mom and dad, I think they listened to my podcast. So, side note, I would go to my aunt's house and I would. The first thing I would do would put in the Coolio CD and, like gangster's paradise, that would be the song I would listen to because it was so off limits.
Lunden Souza:And so I love that about you. That's why I asked the question, because I'm like nothing's really off limits. The topics that you share with your kids are not really off limits. You just are very open so that it's always available and then they can pick and choose what kind of resonates with them as they grow up, instead of feeling like, oh, this I can't have, this is bad, this is good. It's kind of like this all is. And here's the outcome of, let's say, if you eat too much candy, in whatever metaphorical sense that might look like, and you choose.
Brysen Partridge:Yeah, and I grew up. We'll go deeper on this for a second. I grew up in the Mormon church. Okay, I'm holding every presidential priest that you name it highest thing you could do because I showed up. It's just my workout. They come, that does, I showed up, so of course they give you a gun, right, you know, do this year, do you get past this? How you prepare the sack. I'm like all this other shit and it's part of that culture of prepping. I don't want to feed that to my kids and I let them choose their own aspect and their own lives with it, because they want to go try anything, try it, try something, try Like. I think that's something we shut down, our culture so much as trying, because it's either guilt or shame or something that's not going to be. Just really, I don't know. They feel confined. I don't know how to describe that.
Lunden Souza:Yeah, it just seems like there's not like this is right, this is wrong, this is the path, this is not the path. It's kind of like okay, well, you go down that path and try and then always know you can turn back around and try a new path if you want to, maybe in a way that you didn't feel like you had. When you were in the church you probably felt like this is the path.
Brysen Partridge:Well, it was taught that way. Yeah, you're grown up that way, like you're taught, this is the path. Blah, blah, blah, blah. This is what you have to do. I'm like no, like this doesn't make sense and sorry for religious people on here, but I don't think you can share whatever you want.
Lunden Souza:This is your truth, Brysen. So if people are triggered. That's their thing to work on, yeah.
Brysen Partridge:And I love people that have their own religion. What are your beliefs? It's great, but my biggest thing is I think technology and science will ultimately destroy those religions in the future because it's going to come back to the basics Give them. We were talking about the very start of the podcast, of talking about inner energy and growth. I mean, that's what it comes down to. It comes down to some corporations that are making this tithing, that are investing in these multi-stock marijuana companies. They don't believe it.
Brysen Partridge:They don't believe it. They don't believe it and I think we've straight off the path so far. I think Dr. Joe even talks about this. We've straight off the path so far with politics, religion to so many aspects, and that comes down to even our own personal level of where we are with finances, to health to religion ourselves, but what we really believe in. We straight up that path a lot. There's no way to fix it. It's more awareness, right.
Lunden Souza:And just I think having the conversation which is my point of whatever you feel like you want to share and be open to sharing it is because I think the lack of being open to have a conversation and just hearing what somebody might be processing, I think can be a huge problem. It's just kind of like we only want to hear what is confirming of our own beliefs. We only want to listen to it if it is in alignment with what we think and believe. And I have no problem sitting and talking and listening and hearing and seeing people who say things and believe things that I'm like huh, hmm, okay, yeah, try it on. It doesn't fit. Okay, you can wear it.
Brysen Partridge:But our culture is so gauged, so we'll go down a different aspect of that a little bit is our culture. I blame this on our more media, but they've gauged us to be more black and white, right. Yeah, if you're left, you can't be right, or I hate you, I can't. No, that's not the way. There's a middle ground Like, I respect your opinion. That's not what I feel. We can be friends, but that's how our culture and society and media is really dividing us more and more of being like no, you can't be friends with this person that believes in this.
Lunden Souza:No way.
Brysen Partridge:Yeah, come on over. Like cookie, good meal, like I don't care, come over and believe what you want.
Lunden Souza:Yeah, agreed, there too.
Lunden Souza:I think that's why it was kind of something I not struggled with.
Lunden Souza:But I was talking about this to a friend of mine, I was like, yeah, if I brought like all of the people that I'm friends with and I've met which I have done like altogether, they're all like very different and some will get along and some might not, and some might mesh and some might not, but that's okay, because I think that says yeah, I don't know, I like that about myself, I like that I can hold space and be friends with people who you know like this and don't like this, and it's kind of like okay, well, you're all welcome to my party, unless, you know, unless someone's like super disrespectful to somebody else or unkind or like dishonest or just like yeah, I think we can all like spot the knot, or at least I can spot the knot and be like, ah, okay, no, and as long as people are just welcoming and open and, you know, have that ownership of who they are, that's cool for me.
Lunden Souza:As long as nobody is, like you know, throwing physical or metaphorical blows at one another, I'm cool. But I like that about me, I like that about you too, or it's kind of like everybody is pretty much welcome, like you can kind of believe and be exactly who you are. Come as you are, you are welcome.
Brysen Partridge:Yeah, and do you know, those aren't your genuine people. So you keep them like out on the outer rims. No, these aren't my people, these aren't my circle.
Lunden Souza:Yeah, keep them on the fringe. Yeah, we don't always have to tell them I hate you. I don't think that's the you know, or you did this wrong, or push them away you can't come to the party because I don't you believe in something like this.
Brysen Partridge:No it's just more. You know your circle, you want to trust your circle and you know who that is. Yeah, and own that is. Own that your circle. Where them own your circle.
Lunden Souza:Yeah, meet them where they are and that circle can change. It does and it will.
Brysen Partridge:Yeah, sometimes you can have someone inner circle that may just for anything just outside the circle, and that could be a lot of reasons but it doesn't mean you have any animosity towards them. So, okay, this is where we have a different path. Yeah, choose your path. We all have that ability now.
Lunden Souza:Well, I can say that I'm very grateful that you're part of my circle.
Brysen Partridge:I have to Thank you.
Lunden Souza:And I'm so glad that we, that you said let's podcast, bring the microphone over, let's do this. I'm thankful for your openness and your vulnerability and your authenticity. I'm grateful that you've brought me into your circle and introduced me to some awesome people, and I'm so grateful because I am so not a weather and sports and surface level conversation person, and so, for those of you listening, this is literally how Brysen and I talk all the time. We just have a microphone plugged in now. Thank you for you. Anything else you want to share or do you feel complete?
Brysen Partridge:Oh, I feel complete. This is great. This is. I have brought this up only because I don't know how this epiphany. Like you know, we should do a podcast.
Lunden Souza:Yeah, you said it, you called it out.
Brysen Partridge:You're like you looked at me like this gazed look in your eyes. You're like, yeah, I didn't think that'd be an option.
Lunden Souza:With you Like, yeah, yeah, you opened my eyes, I was like all right, let's do it.
Brysen Partridge:So we, we we share a virtual assistant. Shout out to Te. Tels What's up, Tels? we love you. Tels is the best, and she actually mentioned it before she even knew that we were actually going to do this. It's like, hey, you guys should do a podcast.
Lunden Souza:Yeah, I texted her yesterday. I was like, hey, Tels, Brysen and I are going to do a podcast tomorrow. And she's like, oh my gosh, I'm so excited. Is there anything I can do to support you? I said, no, we're good, we'll just plug in the microphone and go and when it's time for she runs my podcast, Instagram blog, all those things. So when it's time she'll listen to it and she'll get to enjoy the conversation we had. But I just love her. She's so sweet and I'm happy that we get to to share resources because she's phenomenal and she helps us so much.
Brysen Partridge:I know that was awesome and I said a frequency is attract people that you need in your life when you need them. We definitely have that and with like even meeting Cara through you like we definitely it feels so uncomfortable that people don't know that that exists, but it does Trust the process with that and it will happen and you will attract the right people in the right time. I'm not filled all the ways, but it does, and that's the path that's grown me the most. And contain the grow Like there's no ceiling.
Lunden Souza:Go team, go team.
Brysen Partridge:Thank you so much for having me it's been. This has been so stressful to think about for the last week or so.
Lunden Souza:Oh, you mean preparing for the podcast. You're all nervous.
Brysen Partridge:I wake up in the middle of the night. I don't not a good sleeper, so I wake up in the middle of the night, just super analytical thinking. I don't know what I'm going to say.
Lunden Souza:Well, what do you think now that it's almost done? Are you happy? I'm happy, are you? Are you as nervous as you thought you were going to be Still?
Brysen Partridge:because I'm like okay, do I want to hear my voice again? Or should I just let this like die?
Lunden Souza:Yeah, you got to work with that. That's for sure something from podcasting and being on camera for many, many years. At first you're like that's what I sound like, or like I remember being like. That's what I look like when I talk on camera, but nobody cares and everyone's excited, I promise.
Brysen Partridge:Okay, I want that. It's been the best.
Lunden Souza:See you guys at the next episode. Thank you, Brysen. Thank you, thanks for listening to this episode of self love and sweat the podcast. Hey, do me a favor Wherever you're listening to this podcast, give us a review this really helps a lot and share this with a friend. I'm only one person and with your help, we can really spread the message of self love and sweat and change more lives all around the world. I'm Lunden Souza, reminding you that you deserve a life full of passion, presence and purpose, fueled by self love and sweat. This podcast is a hit spot. Austria production.