Infrared Sauna and Float Tank Benefits with Stacey Millhorn

In this exciting episode, Lunden Souza sits down with Stacey Millhorn, the owner of Pure Sweat and Float Studios in Utah, to dive deep into the incredible world of infrared sauna and float tank therapy. Discover the amazing infrared sauna benefits that can boost your health and wellness, along with the rejuvenating float tank benefits that help you de-stress and recharge. Stacey shares her expertise on how the combination of these therapies can elevate your self-care routine to new heights. Tune in to explore the powerful synergy of infrared sauna and float tank combination therapy and why Pure Sweat and Float Studios is leading the way in holistic wellness!

Who is Stacey?
Stacey is the owner of Pure Sweat & Float in Park City & South Jordan, UT. She is a Frenchie dog mom, wife, powerful entrepreneur and loves to travel.

Timestamps to help you navigate this episode:
0:00 Intro
2:45 FREE Self Love & Sweat MONTHLY Calendar
13:44 The role of community in personal transformation
22:26 Self-discovery in float tanks
34:14 Finding Stillness Through Self-Care
36:59 Finding your superpower and sharing it with the world
46:02 Planning Excitement for Future Wellness

Pure Sweat & Float:
@‌puresweatparkcity
@puresweatsouthjordan

Pure Sweat Studios Park City: https://www.puresweatstudios.com/park-city-utah

Pure Sweat Studios South Jordan: https://www.puresweatstudios.com/south-jordan-utah

Chapters

• 0:00 Intro
• 0:20 FREE Self Love & Sweat MONTHLY Calendar
• 11:19 The role of community in personal transformation
• 20:01 Self-discovery in float tanks
• 31:49 Finding Stillness Through Self-Care
• 34:34 Finding your superpower and sharing it with the world
• 43:37 Planning Excitement for Future Wellness

Transcript

Lunden Souza: 0:01

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Lunden Souza: 2:13

Welcome back to Self Love and Sweat THE PODCAST. Today we have Stacey Millhorn as our guest and I connected with Stacey because I went to her place of business. She owns Pure Sweat and Float in South Jordan and in Park City, Utah, and since I recently moved to Utah I had the chance to go to actually both of her studios to do sauna, to do the float suite experience, to just, yeah, nurture and love on myself. I brought my mom there, I brought my best friend, Kara there for her birthday when she came to visit. So I'm just so excited to talk to you today, Stacey. Stacey, like I said, owns Pure Sweat and Float in South Jordan and Park City. She's also a Frenchie mom and has four-legged babies, loves to travel and is a wife lives in Utah, so welcome to the podcast, Stacey. I'm so excited to chat with you today.

Stacey Millhorn: 2:58

Thank you, Lunden. I'm so excited we get to have this conversation and that you've had the opportunity to experience the studios firsthand.

Lunden Souza: 3:06

Yeah, it was so great to be there. I had floated before in a variety of different let's say yeah settings, places, ways, whatever. But I love being in your studios. I love it from the start, when you get there to the little shoes that you put on that are cushiony to the room. You go in and you have your robe and then I do my sauna and I can use the you guys have like fascial release massage tools within the sauna.

Lunden Souza: 3:37

So I'm always like getting up in my calves and in my glutes and stretching and then I go into the shower and then I rinse off and then I go into the float tank and then I shower again and I wash my hair and I use all the elixirs and things for my skin. It's just like such a fun experience and so I just, yeah, I think of course you know it's great to go into places of businesses and have great experiences, but then I'm always like who's the person behind this? Like you know, how did where did this come from? And, um, it was Keegan that I talked to in your South, you know, in the park city location, the first time I ever went, and he was, yeah, talking about you and how wonderful you are and just all the things. So, uh, tell us more about you, like how did you, you know, move around from place to place land in Utah and what inspired you to start these businesses?

Stacey Millhorn: 4:24

Because I'm so excited, one's right by my house, right by your house, thank goodness I know it's so great. So we are Florida kids. I was born up north, we moved around a little bit but was raised in Central Florida, as was my husband, and with COVID I was in pharmaceutical sales for 27 years, so I was a talking head for quite some time and we just said, if we ever wanted to try living somewhere else, now's the time to do it. His birthday is in March. We love spring skiing and it was Colorado or Utah, and he still commutes back to Florida and, as you know, the Salt Lake airport is just so easy. So we chose Utah and within what? 30, 40 minutes we're out in the canyons. We rented a place out there, fell in love with Utah and went home and sold our house.

Stacey Millhorn: 5:14

As far as the business is concerned, we I was a client in Nashville, so I unfortunately, just by genetics, have had loose shoulders and chronic pain and jaw stuff that goes on, and so I found Pure Sweat. In Nashville they have sunlight and saunas, as we do now in the studios, and so they use far, mid and near infrared. Most infrared is only far the mid targets muscles and joints. So for me it was very healing, not only from a feeling perspective, but I was able to get off a lot of the medications that they were giving me that just made me feel kind of crummy. And then they introduced me to floating. So at first I just thought, why do you want me to lay in that water? And I went ahead and did it and had like the best night's sleep and really started to use the modalities together.

Stacey Millhorn: 6:01

But when we moved to Utah there was nothing like it and I think, like you said, you'd floated in some different places, been in some different things.

Stacey Millhorn: 6:11

Some things that are really important to us is that it is a spa-like feel that clients walk in the door. The intent of changing your shoes to those squishy shoes is to just kind of give you a break between the outside world and the studio, and getting those squishy slides on is very comfortable. And then we've got you know, specifically curated retail that compliments the services and, to your point, you then have a private experience where you can work out or use it as recovery. The float is amazing and very different than most float places. And then we do offer our little vanity area and we love working with local businesses. So we have Kalahari Rose skincare that's made here in Utah that's back on the dry bar that you can use, and some other natural products. So not only was it something, honestly, selfishly, that I wanted here, but there just was no other experience like it here, and so my passion behind it was me having all the positive experiences that I did in a healing modality, and how could I share that with our community?

Lunden Souza: 7:08

Heck, yeah. And I, yeah, I resonate so much with what you shared in the beginning of just like, huh, there's no time like now, it's time to make moves. My mom often says, Lunden, when you're feeling froggy, you got to jump and that froggy feeling of just like you're on the leap pad, ready to go. When I moved to Utah last year, it was between Arizona and Utah and I was kind of like, made this list of things I wanted and just like, yeah, it was kind of a flip of the coin, but it was summer. So I had a friend lived in Arizona that was like, Lunden, I don't think you want to move to Arizona in the pit of summer. Maybe Utah's better. So I was like, okay, I'll go there for a month. See how I like it, sold, loved it.

Lunden Souza: 7:50

And yeah, I think it's cool because when I moved to Austria in 2012, 13, there were a lot of things that didn't exist yet. And then when I moved there not to say that I caused it, but I was like, oh, this store and this in my neighborhood and oh, yeah, all the things that I would want are there. So when I moved here and then I'm like, oh, this is right down the street from my house. It's just so nice to have those resources and those modalities to plug in and charge or even, yeah, unplug and, like you said, heal your body and learn more about ways to kind of, yeah, naturally do that and wean yourself off maybe some of the medications or just not have that be the only solution, right? I think sometimes it can be helpful. But having a lot of tools and I feel like you guys have so many great tools in your facility how did you feel to move to Utah?

Lunden Souza: 8:42

I mean, I've moved a lot of places. I know those listening maybe want to or have um, it's not easy to just like pick up and go somewhere else and start over. Um, I often say it's like interesting making friends as adults. It's just different. You know, when you're moving. Totally, what was that like for you, stacey?

Stacey Millhorn: 8:58

yeah, so we did a stint through Nashville, so we were Florida for a very long time, five, five years in Nashville. Thankfully, I had a very good friend that was already in Nashville, so that was helpful. Still, like you said, it's hard building a new community as an adult and I don't know why that is. I don't know if we just get out of our childlike play of walking up to someone and being like Hi, my name is Stacey, you know, because I look at my nieces and nephews and my nephew is five years old and he will walk up to an adult and say hello, my name is Henry Dixon. And I'm like where along the way do we lose that?

Lunden Souza: 9:29

Right.

Stacey Millhorn: 9:34

Like I just want to walk up to people and so I don't know what it is about Utah. I don't know if many of us are transplants like you and I, but I have found myself to be more vulnerable and just walking up to people, but I feel like there's more of a true connection and I cannot put my finger on it. But our neighbors, people I mean, I've met people in restaurants and med spas and whatnot and just saying, hey, my name is Stacey, how are you? I don't know I. I again, I don't know what it is about the community If we're just all a little bit more open. And because we've moved here from other places and we're seeking a healthy lifestyle, I find that most people that we end up talking to are doing races or sound baths, light therapy, astrology, it's just I don't know.

Stacey Millhorn: 10:14

The community is more open to things, and so I actually am finding it easier to connect with people authentically here, which has been so refreshing and, honestly, this studio has allowed me to become part of a community. I obviously invite people and I want everyone to try this, because I think there's still a huge misunderstanding about what we're doing and just people don't know floating and maybe they think a traditional sauna is like infrared. But having people come in and watch them go on a journey for themselves, regardless of what that is, and then start to share it with other people, like you did, makes me feel very plugged in, and even if these aren't people that I'm like going to dinner with or doing whatever like, I feel like we have become a resource for the community and, you know, personally becoming more ingrained in it, so it's been interesting to have that happen over the last 13 months.

Lunden Souza: 11:11

Yeah, I love that. I feel the same too, and I didn't think of it as that kid thing of like hi, my name's Lunden, want Lunden play, but I find myself kind of doing that. And when I moved here, yeah, a little Utah, a little of me maybe you feel that way too it was like I was just able to land and it felt like home. And then, yeah, I have neighbors who invite me over for dinner or they made extra leftovers and vice versa, and we bring that to each other and I'm like that is so cool. That is something I didn't realize. I needed to really land and feel good and connect with others and, yeah, if there's something that's cool, that's happening, I want to be there.

Lunden Souza: 11:46

And sometimes I'm organizing events or dinners or whatever just for people to get to know each other and have those moments of like hey, you know, who I am as a kid is not who I am now, and I'm sure you feel that way too. It's like you evolve and grow and change and you know that representing of yourself to adults and people and new connections I just feel like is so beautiful and it's like that playground equivalent of what you have, you know, as a kid, it's like you. I feel like I can't not put myself. You know I am a little bit introverted. I like to have my alone time. We talked a little bit about this before we started recording. But there's something about me that lights up, that I like when I'm around more people that are up, leveling and growing too, and it's kind of like, oh, I unleash more capacity within myself while I'm connecting with you, even in this conversation, and that's really cool and I found that too.

Stacey Millhorn: 12:37

I, like you, have found networking connecting people. Candice, our founder always says what's your superpower? And it fills my cup to watch our community through the studio, but I love connecting people, candice. Our founder always says what's your superpower and I it fills my cup to watch our community through the studio, but I love connecting people. So we've got a physical therapist here who I adore. She had a horrible concussion from a climbing accident and was put into a traditional concussion protocol and that wasn't serving her and so she's gone out on her own and so she now has happy brain physical therapy where she really focuses on concussion.

Stacey Millhorn: 13:07

Well then, I was introduced to save a brain. Kelsey had a horrible snowboarding accident Basically, it's a really tragic, thankfully positive story but had a horrible concussion. Friends got her into the hospital. Had it been 24 hours later, she may not have been here, and so, born out of these personal experiences, have come Save Her Brain, this amazing community where they're doing helmet checks and the safety of our kids and athletes. And here's Annie, who has taken something which she had, and so I was like I mean, the second I met Kelsey, I already knew Annie. I was like okay, you two need to be together.

Stacey Millhorn: 13:43

And so watching what you know, the, the being in the spark, and watching what they've been able to do together and now that they're able to provide people with a scholarship to go through their program or whatnot, it feels so good watching those things bloom and grow from, like you said, like I've got this person over here and maybe a group over here, and so how can I be instrumental in bringing that to something bigger and better for the community and then even for their businesses?

Lunden Souza: 14:12

Yeah, when your brain just goes when you meet people and you're like, oh, you guys need to know each other Totally. I'm that way too. Sometimes I have a friend, jana, who's that way too, and it's like everyone she connects me with I get so excited because I know they're so great and inspiring and all of that. And I also know that connecting with people enough to then remember and understand and then connect them right takes an amount of presence and awareness and connection and the ability to be with someone and not somewhere else. And you're also running businesses and leading and doing all the things right.

Lunden Souza: 14:50

So I ask this because I feel like I'm in it too and I want to learn from you too is like, how do you, yeah, lead and show up and then still be present for these connections and still make these connections within people, but then also you have your employees and teams and things that right, like, that's a lot of yeah, a lot of the show to run, let's say, and I know it takes a lot of capacity. So, like, how do you do that? Any tips? A?

Stacey Millhorn: 15:18

lot of balls in the air. I joke with Susan from Kalahari Rose. I'm like it's like you know you're at a circus or a show and the spinning plates I'm like whichever ones are getting ready to fall is the one you've got to grab. And so you're right. It is managing and balancing a lot of things. But I think, from a team perspective, I was in, like I said, sales for a long period of time, so I think the marketing and sales aspect connecting with people and being able to educate is definitely a strength that I have. Sharing that with the team, so working with them one-on-one or in a group setting about what are we really here for? And it is connection to our community and helping people either on a wellness journey that they're already on or helping them create one. A lot of people are being diagnosed with heavy metal or mold toxicity and being told you need to go sauna or buy a sauna, and they're like buy a sauna, so they come in and our biggest thing is learning. I love to know how people heard about us, but I also it's more important for me to know the why, and that could range from skin stress, toxicity, performance, recovery and so being able to then connect with them where they are. We then start talking about a discovery phase. So if you're discovery phase one, it's what is this place? What is infrared sauna? And then we know how to recommend, maybe supplements or ways to use the sauna. Like you said, you like using the muscle roller and the lacrosse ball. We also have little hand weights and resistance bands. So I think for me, teaching the team that, yes, we are a business, in order to stay in business, we have to make money. But how are we connecting with the clients where they are and then helping them get to a future phase or a better phase?

Stacey Millhorn: 17:01

Juggling two studios has been interesting. I'm out in Camas, so Park City was very selfish of starting at first because I wanted it close, and then we're in the district. But our neighborhoods are both very similar, so we've got Orange Theory, prime IV, we've got yoga studios, joint chiropractic, so the feel in both of the neighborhoods is very similar, which is great because we love to partner and collaborate with other wellness businesses and non-wellness businesses. But that's been really nice. We've got some clients that are like I love coming here and doing Asana and then going to Prime IV. So that community connection has been great and I'm learning.

Stacey Millhorn: 17:38

I mean, I am a wide, open, vulnerable book right now. I never. My mom always told me you have an entrepreneurial spirit and I didn't really know what that meant. Managers and directors through my career always said you have a very entrepreneurial, you run your business right. You're not just like going out seeing a doctor checking the box or like doing a lunch. So I think there's always been this in me.

Stacey Millhorn: 17:59

But taking it from I'm in a corporate environment to this is my business and how do I run this business and what are you know avenues and tactics and things you can do within a business. I'm very much learning and thankfully we've got a new area director in Nashville. She's come into the franchise and she's done these types of things before. So I had just said hey guys, I know I'm doing this well, but what else can you teach me? So I'm 49 years old and this has been the last two years. I mean learning about real estate, broker, broker, real estate like how do you get commercial space, and learning about a build out and all these different things. So I feel like I'm very much a student still in some aspects of this, which is exciting because I love to learn.

Lunden Souza: 18:45

Yeah, same, always be learning, Tapping into that inner knowing of I don't know yet, but I'll find a way or I'll find someone, or I'll meet someone that could teach me how to do that. And, like you said, I love what you said, where you're like, I know I'm really good at this, right, it's so great to be able to identify our areas of strength and nurture those and, you know, go forward. But then you know, what am I not seeing? Give me some perspective. Help me see the water. You know when I'm the fish, like, tell me what I don't know yet. How can you help me? That's really how I feel too. So I just was. Yeah, it's nice, you know. When we think you know entrepreneurs or business owners or directors or running, it's like it's hard to you know. Imagine the day-to-day if you're not in it. And I think, too, it's nice to know that you know. To hear it from you. I would just say it feels good to know that you feel like you know you're still learning all the time and you're just showing up with your best and making your best matter and, you know, increase your capacity when you need to. So super powerful and for the sake of being a student. Let's talk more about infrared and float and why it's so potent and powerful. And, yeah, we can start with sauna, because that's kind of the how I go through the flow of when I get there.

Lunden Souza: 20:01

I love sauna, sauna-ing. I've been sauna-ing for a while. When I lived in Europe, sauna culture was huge, right. So it was like everyone dry sauna, wet sauna, everybody's there, everyone's naked boys, girls, old, young, whatever, right, we're just like all sweating, which was great, because at first I was uncomfortable with that until I lived there for eight years and it became not such a big deal, right.

Lunden Souza: 20:17

But love sauna. I know there's different kinds you mentioned like mid, far, infrared. I also work out at Hot Works every day, so I love the sauna and then I love coming to your sauna and stretching and recovery and all of that. I've gotten to the point now where, yeah, daily sauna just is like my fave. I love the sweat, I love the detox, I love the movement, I love the way my skin feels and I just like you know, being in there and it's hot and like listening to a meditation or some music or whatever and just kind of like getting lost in my body, to be honest, like, just like the sweat and massaging things. So what are some of those powerful benefits of infrared and why do we need to be doing it?

Stacey Millhorn: 21:01

Yeah, absolutely. First of all, I love that you just like embrace it. And it's so interesting because sauna has been around to your point for ages and the US is like kind of just figuring it out some of these alternative modalities, which is so cool to be in a phase of education, um and learning from people like you that have done it for so long.

Stacey Millhorn: 21:20

So most people hear sauna and they do think traditional sauna gym is where you're finding it most in the U? S or a hotel. You open the door, it's 200 plus degrees. They tell you to get out If you can make it in 10 minutes. They usually smell a little moldy, which is kind of creepy.

Stacey Millhorn: 21:36

And it's not super comfortable. There are some people out there that really love that form of sauna and that's great. But infrared is going to heat you at a cellular level. So where those traditional saunas, they're heating the air around you. So, yeah, you're going to sweat. I mean, how could you not sweat 200 degrees? But the infrared is heating your body. So Sunlighten is the industry leader in using multiple wavelengths of light. So Hotworks uses far. A lot of yoga studios that are heated use far, and that's good. You're getting one wavelength, if you will. So that far is penetrating your body the farthest. Sunlighten added mid. So for me that was really important. That's muscles and joints. That's a great. Yeah.

Stacey Millhorn: 22:17

Cardiovascular health, mental health is positively impacted, which is great. Seasonal affect it's crazy. I had people last year that are like I'm really experiencing seasonal affect and I'm going to the tanning bed and I'm like, do not go to UV Now you're going to give yourself cancer and treat your seasonal affect. But I did not ever understand seasonal affect. Living in Florida, going through Nashville, it was a really big shock. There's more rain in Nashville than there is in Seattle, so when it's gray and rainy it is days of it and my husband was still commuting to Florida and I was like I feel weird, get in the sauna. I'm like, oh my gosh, yes, so there's data on that. And then the near is wonderful, like you said, for skin. I love the way my skin looks after sauna and using sauna regularly, so that's just penetrating your body the least, so you're getting it in a little bit of the muscle. But it's really good for eczema. We've got a team member. His whole trunk was covered in eczema and it's gone. So it's pretty amazing. Again, that's all that underlying inflammation which we all have. I had no idea in Utah how much heavy metal we have from all the mining and the copper out in like the daybreak area. So helping with that. And then mold, unfortunately, is so prevalent. So using the infrared sauna helps with that as well. And, to your point, hot Works is going to give you a space where you can really focus on working out, where we've got private saunas. They're six feet long, they're custom made so they're large enough for two people.

Stacey Millhorn: 23:46

I love doing a sauna by myself. Like you, I like to either use the lacrosse ball or muscle roller or whatnot. Gets an added therapy in there. I have done sauna with my husband, but he too likes to stretch out. He uses it as a zone two recovery, and then sunlight and we have added chromotherapy, so light therapy and I initially just thought like, oh, it's really nice, we've got some little cards that tell you red's really good for circulation and orange is really good for kind of breaking up body fat in your midsection.

Stacey Millhorn: 24:15

Well, I did a podcast with a, an energy healer. She uses light for trauma and it guides her through the process. She's gone through this whole program, actually in Arizona, I believe, and we I reached out to some light and said is there rhyme or reason to the light? And they said yes. They worked with a researcher at Wake Forest who uses light therapy because each color of light has its own frequency. So I learned, whether you can see it or not, the light is helping you in some way. Well, ironically, blue is your throat chakra and I was on my neck, jaw, shoulder, so not only was the infrared helping me, but I usually leave it on blue. We have a lot of people that do like red. I also love violet in the evening, so there's a lot of different modalities happening just, and all you have to do is sit in the sauna To your point. It's not uncomfortable. I have some people lately that have said that sitting in the sauna feels like vacation. You can go in there and work on meditation. We strongly encourage breath work.

Stacey Millhorn: 25:15

So, like box breathing or any other type of breathing that people are working on, just really helps with calming down the nervous system. And, to your point, then, we do love. We call it a detox de-stress. So from the sauna to the float, yeah.

Lunden Souza: 25:30

Yeah, the sauna feels so amazing. I love that. Yeah, yeah, the sauna feels so amazing, I love that. Yeah, that sweat and that just kind of disconnect. But, yeah, it's hard at first for people that are not used to sitting with themselves at all. So, yeah, then you're in a place by yourself with your own thoughts and it's hot, right. And those are the work ins that I often talk about. It's like we do our workouts, right, physical fitness but what about when it comes time to sitting within and our thoughts and the to-dos and the? You know I don't have time for this or what's this person think about, like all the things right. But I think over the years of meditating and sauna and stuff like that, it feels really fun to, you know, be able to turn off and disconnect, and I feel like I'm having like a little staycation when I go into the studio because I'm there for a couple hours and it just feels so great.

Lunden Souza: 26:20

So then the next step, yeah, is the float tank. And so for those of you that have never been to a float suite or anything like that, so I guess the difference, the float suite is what they have at, what you guys have at, pure Sweat and Float. Those are the ones where it's kind of like you're opening like a big fridge almost that, like it suctions, and you open up and you step into. And then I've also been in ones too that I guess are pods, where it kind of opens up like a clamshell and then you go in and anyways, the idea of it is that you're in a very shallow body temperature, so not super cold, not hot, not cold plunge, not sauna, but very baseline temperature and it's super, super salty. So it's like the Dead Sea effect where you go in there and it's so salty that you float. So you're in this suite and you step in and the water's pretty shallow and you just lean back and surrender.

Lunden Souza: 27:11

And then I always, when I go to well, the times I've gone to the studio I just tell whoever's working at the front Mickey or whatever and I'm just like pick, whatever, like whatever you want to play. I know you guys have different audios. I just let them choose because I'm like you know, what do you think? Tell me? Surprise me, yeah, surprise me. And you know the salt to water ratio is perfect, because then the water only comes to the side of your face, it doesn't get in your eyes, it's not like, and you just lay there and I love it because you know you lose track of time. I don't know, did I go to sleep? Am I awake? Did I just start? Is it almost over? You know, I like that feeling when you almost don't feel the water because you're so still right and you're floating. It's super cool. So what are all the benefits of that? And I love it. So this is so cool.

Stacey Millhorn: 28:05

First, I love the word that you use, surrender, because we tell people it will take about three times to find comfort in the float for some people. Some people first float, they're in, they trust the water, they relax 15, 20 minutes in. They're in that theta state, which is that not quite awake, not quite sleeping. And, to your point, my husband always says it feels like he's had a massage, but better. And he comes out and he feels like he's taken or had a night's sleep. So it's that sensory deprivation. So you're in a space with no phone, no computer, no external noise which we have a very hard time finding in our communities these days and there's stars on the ceiling, soundtrack, like you said, like heart chakra, tibetan bowls and things underwater, and there's a light underwater. You have control in the suite. If you want to go sensory deprivation, no sound, no light you can do that and there's a lot of people that use it that way.

Stacey Millhorn: 29:01

I love floating with the stars on the ceiling and soundtrack underwater.

Stacey Millhorn: 29:04

It's seven feet tall and seven feet long, so for people that have been concerned about being claustrophobic or enclosed, they don't have to worry about that and the stars actually start to reflect off the walls so it feels larger than smaller.

Stacey Millhorn: 29:18

Once you're in that space, there's 1500 pounds of medical grade Epsom salt in there. So, to your point, that water salt ratio we're constantly testing. So as soon as you lay back and it's only about 10 to 12 inches of water as soon as you lay back you are up on that water and as you settle in that body temperature water you start to become one with, and you do you can just drift off. We have some people that use it for creative outlets. So they're prepping or planning for something or they've got a big decision coming. They will float and allow their brain to go through that process of just processing and whatever they need. We have some people that have had injuries that they find because you're buoyant and you're in alignment, the Epsom salt is magnesium sulfate, which majority of us are deficient in anyways, and so your body's drinking in that magnesium.

Stacey Millhorn: 30:08

So it's going to help to lower cortisol levels, which we all need. Improvement in sleep, which is always wonderful, and then muscle recovery. We have had athletes seek us out or other people who have unfortunately had concussion or traumatic brain injury. Because you're in there without that external stimuli, you go into rest and digest, versus fight or flight. We have had some people.

Stacey Millhorn: 30:31

It's interesting to talk to people after they float. They're very like kind of in the clouds, and some people will say this wasn't for me. And so one thing that we've challenged ourselves on is asking people if they're willing to share with us why and to your point, going back to, we are not used to being alone with our thoughts. Going back to, we are not used to being alone with our thoughts, and that can be hard. That can be hard, and so we challenge people. How do you show up in other aspects of your life, like when things get hard? Do you walk away? When things get hard, do you bury your emotions and your feelings? Because maybe the float is a place for you to be safe. Like you said, you're in a spa-like environment, our team is very kind and maybe this is your time to go into a space alone to explore that in yourself, and so that's been interesting too. I mean, life is hard challenges, and so if you found the float to be a challenge, maybe it's an area for you to go deeper, yeah.

Lunden Souza: 31:35

Heck, yeah, I love that. I love that you go deeper. Right, it's not just like oh, you didn't like it, sorry, maybe not for you, whatever, but how do you show up to hard things, right, those work-ins. As a society, I've gotten really good at communicating what workouts we need to do and how to get rid of this and how many reps. But it's like and I know it's coming more and more, and I also know it's because it's the people I surround myself with, it's the methods of healing and stuff that I choose to engage with. So for me, it's very, you know, a big part of my life to work on those work-ins and sitting with ourselves. But, yeah, when we spend most of our day hurrying and rushing and doing all the things or doing other things to mask and not feel, yeah, when you go into a water tub that matches your water temperature of your body, exactly Nothing too cold Goldilocks zone you don't even know that it's there, right, it's dark, there's no noise. You have earplugs in your ears and then you're under that water so the salt doesn't get all up in there, right, it can be like when I talk about it, it's like it's so. I love it. I love to, you know, but I get it, because when you don't go there, very often it's like a dark closet with a shadow you know of, like the monster in the closet, and you're like, oh shit, I have not sat with all these thoughts and heard what I thought and all that, and some people just want to get out and be done.

Lunden Souza: 32:56

Yes, I was interested on how my mom would like it too, because she's very much like gets all the stuff done is, you know, living in, you know two months ahead of time, just, and I'm always, you know, loving her back into that present moment, you know, but she, literally she's like, oh my gosh, that was so interesting and she just came out like in this daze and my mom's very like type A, always in high beta, beta brainwave state, so like you could just tell she was just like more theta E and weight. You know, I was just like, yeah, awesome, you know, and even it was cute, because even Keegan and the other girl that was there working I can't remember her name, but I had told you know they were we could tell my mom was kind of nervous, you know, and I was like, just to get her to do all the things right. She had flown to visit me, which was very much out of her comfort zone of flying by herself, whatever. So it was cute, because that day we weren't only there to sauna and float. Your team was also like there, knowing that it was a struggle for my mom and she was going to be out of her comfort zone. And then she came out and she's like, oh, my hair is all over the place and I don't know where I'm at.

Lunden Souza: 33:58

And we were all kind of silently celebrating because those are, you know, those people. You know there's a lot of us even listening. We work hard, we have a lot to do, we all do Right, but we can't. You know, I see those, these moments of what we get to do in your studio and others. It's like it's it's making the rock bigger, so when it goes into the pond you make a bigger ripple. Instead of throwing all these little rocks into the pond all day long trying to, it's like we can recover and increase our capacity. I'm reading this bomb book right now. It's called 10X is Easier Than 2X. It's really good. You should read it.

Stacey Millhorn: 34:31

Stay safe, okay, I will, right.

Lunden Souza: 34:34

So it talks about that and about how people that perform at a high level and that 10X mentality rather than 2X, they recover, they turn off, they schedule that ahead of time, they have a no phone for a week just to create, right To your point, of those people that come in and just lay in the float tank and let their mind and ideas wander and let those downloads come in. Right, we need to create that for ourselves, and I think what I'm getting away from that book is like it's so cool if you can do more in less time and you can line it up and knock it down and multitask, okay, great, but at some point you hit a ceiling. There's like a finiteness of the time and what we can do and all of that. And so this book has been really interesting because it shifts my mind of thinking like, not how can we double month over month or year over year? But what mindset do I need to tap into to then 10X, right, which is very different, right, what you would need, strategy, brain-wise, to 10X is different than for 2X, right? All of it, absolutely so when I look at that and I see people who don't have time and want to get more done and line it up and knock it down.

Lunden Souza: 35:39

Actually, the research is showing that if you want, like the big success, not the 2x success, but the 10x it's like we have to take that time to tell our brain like, nope, we're not staying in those states, we have to go here so we can tap into more of our potential and then bring that back to then the other brainwave states. Right, it's like we get to travel within these different brainwave states to bring information, to heal, different things to let go, to bring in. And so we say we want to do more and we have all the things to do and we're so busy. But if people really wanted to excel and make a bigger impact, that surrender piece, that nourishing piece, the magnesium, the lights, all of that stuff that's working to help our physical body, is going to help us so much more than if we were to go 100 miles per hour trying to do all the things. And so anyone listening, invitation to slow down and sauna and float.

Stacey Millhorn: 36:32

It's interesting. I had in pharma a manager who really just took things differently. Normally it's you know, go, go, go, drive, drive, drive. You know numbers perform. He was the first person that ever said you need to slow down, to speed up, and it was if you need to take a few hours on a Monday or whatever day and plan and connect and get things in the future set up for yourself. And it was so refreshing because instead of just being in the rat race and going and like I'll deal with the next thing, I've told my team the same thing slow down, have a conversation.

Stacey Millhorn: 37:09

It's okay If someone is two or three minutes late into their appointment because you were able to connect with them or find some way that you can help them, or even yourself. Like they get a lot out of being in the studio and talking with people. It's pretty amazing. But we are not a culture wired to recover. I mean, look like these athletes and just people in general like go, go, go to your point, like I need to work out six days a week and dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. It's like also, if you don't give yourself a break, like there is a breaking point, so if you don't plan some recovery or don't plan some downtime. We're always operating like hurry, hurry, hurry.

Lunden Souza: 37:47

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And in that book he was talking about to your point of professional athletes and LeBron James and how he's one of the athletes that invest the most in his recovery out of all athletes like millions of dollars a year in that. Of course, that's within his budget, right, right, but he's now and I'm almost, because I just was listening to this chapter, I listened to it twice this morning but now he's at 50,000 hours of game playing and most people's bodies tap out completely in our dunzo by 40,000 hours and he's crushing it and a lot of that is he's equated to like that recovery. And, of course, when you have teams, you know, orchestrating your recovery it's different, but it starts where you are right. So we're not LeBron James. I don't have millions to spend on my personal recovery, but I am going to go float you know float every other week and do my sauna and do all the things, because it's going to be an investment in the longevity of our physical body and it's like if we don't have that, then it doesn't matter what our soul wants or what we desire or what we're pursuing or what we're passionate about.

Lunden Souza: 38:55

My friend Kevin, I love him. He's so great, he's like in his 60s. He's a pastor. I love him, he's so cool. He always tells me, Lunden, you can't walk the walk if you can't walk. And it's like a reminder of, like you can't do the things if you can't walk and get your body moving and recover. And do you know, walk, let's say, is a very loose term for, like, all the things to do to take care of your physical body right, so then you can actually do the thing right.

Lunden Souza: 39:19

Intention has no good if you, like, are physically out of shape and haven't taken care of yourself and you have, you know, a to-do list up to here and brain fog and you know areas that you haven't healed for yourself or whatever you know, it's like it becomes a lot. So I think about that. It's like I want to. You know, I don't know how long I'm here and it could be today, it could be tomorrow, whatever. But I want to feel good and fluid in my body and I want to be able to try things physically with my body but then also push myself mentally even further because I've taken care of my body. So I'm so grateful for the places you've planted, because one's right in my backyard and I feel so lucky to have that, and it's just cool that people you know, like you said, we're not a culture that's wired for recovery.

Lunden Souza: 40:03

I think in Europe too, because I lived there for a long time it was just like in German, it was just pause. That's what you say. It's like a pause, it's just like no, you just don't do those things during, like this is the day that you sauna and chill and you're with your family and you're outside and you're gardening and you're eating good food that you prepped from scratch without you know. And here we're just like let's do all the things. Everything's open 24 hours, let's work on Sunday, team no sleep, all of that stuff, and so it's just I'm excited because I feel like the spheres that we're in are doing more of those things, and then I just see these little Venn diagrams or these little ripples just crossing over and, like you said, who you meet and you connect, and then we learn more about this.

Lunden Souza: 40:46

That's what I'm most excited about in my life right now are all those little micro moments of connection and cross collaboration, and I'm so happy that I met you and then we get to continue to do cool things and that's yeah. What I'm most excited about is that cross collaboration and learning. So thanks for sharing your wisdom today. If there's one thing, yeah, you want to share to our listeners any last thoughts or calls to action of you know, reminding them taking time for themselves, whatever you feel like, what's something you want to share, to kind of set us off today, and then we'll talk about how to connect with you further.

Stacey Millhorn: 41:22

Absolutely, I just think. I mean, if you have a body, you should be in our studio. We're seeing kids that are benefiting. Teenagers with high anxiety levels are coming with their parents. As a parent, as a person, I'm not a parent. I've got fur babies, but we're all doing something, and so stopping and taking some time for yourself it's 45 minutes for a sauna. We have 40 minute and 60 minute floats, but whether that's planning it, it's also a great way to reconnect. We've got people that'll come sauna and or float together and being in that quiet space. One of our ambassadors, she came for her anniversary and she said we got in the float at first and we kind of were just giggling and whatnot she goes. Then we just both looked up at the stars and we put our hands on each other and just that in that quiet space.

Stacey Millhorn: 42:08

And I just thought that was so beautiful to take that time for those two to reconnect in a way that you probably there's not really a way like that. I mean you go on a walk or something and walk quietly. But I think try it. If you're hesitant, I promise you, as the experience you and specifically your mom had, we really are here to help. It is not transactional, it does not feel medicinal. We really want to take care of people as soon as they walk in the door to the time that they leave. So if you're hesitant, we have an intro packs and memberships and there's little ways for you to kind of dip your toe in the water, so to speak. That will feel safe.

Lunden Souza: 42:47

I love that. Yeah, definitely. I'm excited for when my next time is to go, and thank you so much for being here, stacey, and sharing more about you and your heart, and also your brain and knowledge about these great healing tools. I'll put all the links to your studios in South Jordan and in Park City down below. Get connected with Stacey. Go visit one of her studios, because it's definitely such a great experience. You step into a whole different world and then I feel like when I come out, I'm refreshed and renewed in a very cool way. I'll also link your Instagram websites all the things to get connected there. Thank you, stacey, for your time. I appreciate you. Thanks, Lunden, it was so nice talking with you.

Stacey Millhorn: 43:32

I really enjoyed it, Same same.

Lunden Souza: 43:35

Thank you guys for listening.

Stacey Millhorn: 43:36

We'll see you in the studio soon.

Lunden Souza: 43:37

Yeah, yeah, I can't wait to be back. In fact, as we were talking, I was thinking in my head I usually book one when I leave. I don't know when that is, but I actually yeah, I'm curious to know because I want to get excited for it. I always plan them out. Thanks for being here and thank you, guys, for listening. If you have any questions or anything, as always, shoot us a DM on Instagram and we'll see you at the next episode. Bye, take care. Bye. Thank you so much for listening to this episode of Self Love and Sweat the podcast. Hey, do me a favor Wherever you're listening to this podcast, give us a review this really helps a lot and share this with a friend. I'm only one person and with your help, we can really spread the message of self-love and sweat and change more lives all around the world. I'm Lunden Souza, reminding you that you deserve a life full of passion, presence and purpose, fueled by self-love and sweat. This podcast is a Hitspot. Austria production.