Feminine Energy & How To Manifest Magic In Your Life w/ Dr. Erin Pollinger

Your womb space is more than just a physical part of your body—it’s an energetic center of creation, power, and limitless potential. In this episode, Dr. Erin Pollinger and Lunden dive into the sacral chakra, feminine energy, and how to harness your deepest creative force to manifest magic in your life.

We explore:
✨ How to activate your womb space energy for manifestation
🌙 The connection between the sacral chakra and your ability to create
🔥 Why feminine energy is the key to effortless manifestation
💛 Practices to align with your divine creative power

Timestamps to help you navigate this episode:
0:00 Intro
0:24 FREE Self Love & Sweat MONTHLY Calendar
10:32 The Rise of Feminine Power
17:43 Willing, Wild, and Wise Feminine Aspects
25:26 Creating a Personal Womb Space
34:13 Transforming Pain into Power
40:02 Resources for Feminine Awakening

Who is Dr. Erin Pollinger?

Dr. Erin Pollinger, a chiropractor for 25 years, helps women unlock their magic through tantric dance and womb space healing. Passionate about life and truth, she empowers others to dream big, say yes to themselves, and live vibrantly with purpose and joy.

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Connect with Dr. Erin online and learn more about her in-person retreats In Costa Rice & Ashland, Oregon: https://drerinpollinger.com/

IG: @drerinpollinger

Chapters

• 0:00 Feminine Energy Introduction
• 0:24 FREE Self Love & Sweat MONTHLY Calendar
• 10:32 The Rise of Feminine Power
• 17:43 Willing, Wild, and Wise Feminine Aspects
• 25:26 Creating a Personal Womb Space
• 34:13 Transforming Pain into Power
• 40:02 Resources for Feminine Awakening

Transcript

Lunden Souza: 0:00

Welcome to Self Love and Sweat the podcast, the place where you'll get inspired to live your life unapologetically, embrace your perfect imperfections and do what sets your soul on fire. I'm your host, Lunden Souza. Hey, before we jump into this episode, I just want to make sure that you get all the free things possible, If you haven't already. You need to get your self-love and sweat free monthly life coaching calendar. Honestly, the way to experience deep change in your life is by doing small little things over time, and so that's what you'll find in this free calendar. You can get it by going to lifelikelunden com/calendar calendar. Get yours for free and let's get into today's episode. Hey, before we start today's episode, I just want to give a little bit of a pre-frame that this is not for young listeners, so if you have any littles next to you or are not in a place to hear some real sensitive topics discussed, then save this episode for later. And also, I just want you to consider the strength and courage it takes for people to share really deep pain and trauma, and so I ask that you listen to this episode with an open mind and with an open heart and know that it takes courage and strength to share some of those moments in our life that we might have felt very shameful or just might be challenging. So I just want to give that pre-frame listen to this episode with an open heart and open mind and I hope you enjoy it. Welcome back to the podcast

Lunden Souza: 1:58

Today's guest is Dr Erin Pollinger. I am so excited about this conversation today because this topic is very near and dear to my heart and what I've been working on recently with Dr Erin, actually in a course that she created in our NABA community called Manifesting Magic, and I met Erin through our NABA community, through a mutual friend, Austin, who's also been on the podcast yeah, our NABA community, through a mutual friend, Austin, who's also been on the podcast and I decided to, yeah, begin Dr Aaron's course, Manifesting Magic. And I think I told you this, Dr Aaron, but I felt like it was like Jumanji, it was like once you opened that you had to finish it. You had to go through all of it in the way that it's meant to be gone through. And I don't know, you know, I don't think I knew that going into it, but I immediately knew like okay, after that first module, I was like this is not something that you just like start a little bit and dabble in and walk away from. This is like a a something I wanted to see all the way through, so I'm so excited to have you here today.

Lunden Souza: 3:04

Welcome to the podcast, Dr Erin. Tell us more about you and how. I know you're joining us from Costa Rica, from your retreat center right now. What's been the journey of you? I'm so grateful to have you here today.

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 3:15

Yeah, thank you so much for having me on today. Lunden, such an honor to be here. Yes, a little bit about me. So I am a chiropractor of 25 years, so really supporting people in that way with getting their spine into alignment, you know, reorganizing their nervous system, opening their gateways, helping them be more vital and connected and energized through that modality, is such a huge piece of my soul work. Again, 25 years I've been doing that work and had a practice in Berkeley and then moved to Ashland Oregon where I live now. I go between Costa Rica and Ashland Oregon and had a really big driving practice for many, many, many years and worked on a lot of people with that modality.

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 4:00

And soon after I started that I discovered the practice of tantric dance and was going through a really really hard time. Actually, you know, in both of those moments before chiropractic, going down a very dark, scary, lonely, self-abusive road and found chiropractic and it really brought my light back and my hope back and my passion back. So I went to chiropractic school and then a few years later, separated from the father of my child which was another really grueling rite of passage and found tantric dance and my connection to my womb and the power and the strength and the courage and the grace and all of the magic that comes from that practice. And so I started working with women, really blending the energetics of the chiropractic work that I do and the energetics of the tantric dance to support women to really get into their bodies, into their desire, into their pleasure, into their power, so that they can really create the most extraordinary lives that they were born to live.

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 5:08

Because I truly believe that we're all here to live extraordinary right, it's like that's why we're here, and I get so in touch with that when I'm here in Costa Rica. I wish I could show you all maybe I will what I'm looking out at but the mountains and the ocean and I've been waking up every day with the sun rising over the mountain and sitting in the temple for an hour or more in meditation and I'm just like, wow, this life is so extraordinary, you know, it's so beautiful, it's so magical, it's so rich, it's so energized, and my deepest passion is to really support women to reclaim that level of energy and activation and passion and extraordinary in their lives.

Lunden Souza: 5:55

Yeah, yeah, and I love your work so much in the way that you yeah, I mean the way, like you said, you've been a chiropractor of 25 years successful practices, like all these things and I love the way that you hold that feminine energy, that grace, all of that because I grew up in a family where everybody worked.

Lunden Souza: 6:16

It was a very masculine energy Italian immigrants as grandparents, you know.

Lunden Souza: 6:20

Everybody worked and go, go, go and I just, yeah, I remember always being proud to say, oh yeah, I work seven days a week, or I work 10 hours today, 12 hours today, all in that doing and not taking the time and not seeing women in my family line lineage that came back into their body, like you said, tapped into their desires and all of that right, it was like as if that was a shame thing.

Lunden Souza: 6:49

And I remember like if other people in my family went to retreats or did something for themselves, it was like who does she think she is? She got a babysitter for a week and is by herself and that was the chatter right. And I'm discovering that was the chatter right and I'm discovering that that programming it served me a little bit but it is not going to serve me long-term in the way that I want to serve and expand. And so, yeah, what's going on with the feminine feeling like they can't be into their bodies and they can't express and have desires and pleasure? Why is? Why is that so icky or seen as like taboo?

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 7:28

I mean, it was in my family, I don't know if anybody else probably someone listening, it was the same, but like yeah absolutely and yeah, well, definitely the time that we've been living in and the patriarchy and the, the toxic masculine that people have really adopted and believed right and like the messages we get from family, from culture, from society that we need to be equal to men and we need to work hard and we need to, you know, push and we need to hustle. You see so many women on social media like in the hustle and the and the push Right and it's um, it's really been a dis-ease. You know that, that women, the messaging that we've gotten as women, and the fear around really rising in our feminine. I mean, the witches were burned, we were, you know, tortured and killed for really being in our magic and in our feminine. I mean, the witches were burned, we were, you know, tortured and killed for really being in our magic and in our power and in our beauty, and so it's like that fear, you know religion, all the ways that we've been taught that being in these wild, powerful, powerful, graceful feminine essences that we have isn't safe and it's shameful, and so we've taken this on right and I think things are changing.

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 8:54

Not, I think I know things are changing so much right now, in this moment in time. Right, it's like we've just come into this, this era of the feminine. Like this whole next era, this whole next period is about the feminine rising and really about women understanding that it is safe. It is safe to be in our desire. That's the beautiful thing about pleasure, right? That's why so many feminine leaders are talking about pleasure right now, because it actually recodes the system that our desires are safe, that we can actually have what we want, that we're not going to be tortured, we're not going to be killed, we're not going to be outcasts right. That we can actually have what it is that we desire. It's safe and we're worthy and we're deserving, especially now, in this year of the snake. It's like this year is all about, like that Kundalini, that Shakti, that feminine, that deep feminine power moving through us, tapping into that, so that we can really rise into the feminine leaders, rise into the beings that we really want to be which doesn't mean just doing right.

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 10:02

Doing is a part of the feminine. I talk about the three aspects of the feminine the willing, the wild and the wise. And this is a year for the wise the wisdom, the grace, the being right. The snake is slow and moves and it's connected to nature and the earth and then goes and takes strategic action, which is that wild. The wild is the creative, it's more of the young feminine, it is that doing, it's the action piece which is a part of the feminine. And then the willing, of course, is having the willingness to go into the dark. The dark feminine is such a big, important piece of the feminine. So in the retreats that I do with women and the work that I do, I really support women to understand these different aspects of themselves and how each one of them is sacred, right. The goal isn't to get to just be the wise woman and live there. The goal is to know all of the aspects of you and when one is running the show and how to pull more of the other energetics in.

Lunden Souza: 11:08

Yes, when one is running the show.

Lunden Souza: 11:11

That is what I've come to realize over the last, I would say for sure, since I moved to Utah, which is about a year and a half ago.

Lunden Souza: 11:20

I think that I never felt as safe and secure, with all of my needs met, as I have been here. So then, of course, when you land and you feel safe and you feel good, right, that's that space where then that dark, feminine shadow energy is like okay, yeah, I feel safe enough to come out, right, and so I feel like, yeah, when you aren't aware that those three pieces exist, it's like you're trying to sit. It just made me envision like a stool with three legs and it's like, when you're trying to sit on a stool with just one leg, like when it's time to pivot, because I feel like, as women, what I felt in your course is like we have all these superpowers, like these different capes we can wear, and like we get to be in one of those, depending on the season of our life or whatever, instead of looking out for something else to help us or fix us, or remedy or whatever. It's like actually, there's a lot of cool tools within our feminine energy and I just love that.

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 12:34

Yeah, absolutely we are. It's like these different the willing, the wild, the wise they do come along with different archetypes, and when we really learn what these archetypes are and how they move in us and through us and the ones that we've actually disowned, the ones that we haven't really gotten to know, then we're moving in life and like this limited box of perception, this limited box of who we can be and what we can receive and what we can give and how we can be expressed. And so as we reorganize our nervous system through the chiropractic and the entrainments and really bring the energy of the kundalini, the shakti online, the tantric dance, all of those aspects get to be integrated and really accepted and understood so that we can feel more full, more vibrant, more authentic expression and we get to know when it's called for.

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 13:28

Right, it's like, sometimes, in the wise woman. It's such a being energy. Right, it's such a wisdom, it's such a grace. There's such an effortlessness. It's such a time of reciprocity right, giving your gifts and receiving from giving your gifts. It's community, it's like weaving the web of your life. And there's a time for wild. There's a time to like be out and start that new program and really be in the like victory energy. Right, like nothing is going to stop me. I am here, you know, and and and I'm activated and I'm on a mission and I will not stop until I succeed at that. There's a time for that, and there's a time to really go dark and be down in the depths of all of the beauty and magic that comes from being willing to really go there and get to know the shadow, like you said, get to know the pieces that need to be felt and really appreciated and welcomed and loved and accepted.

Lunden Souza: 14:36

Yeah, get to know the pieces that need to be felt acceptance, not trying to push something away. Acceptance, not trying to push something away. And, yeah, I did our advanced push-catch detox at the end of December and then after that, I immediately tapped into your manifesting magic course and so, for the first time since I was yeah, I mean, I've been showing up on social media every day for like a decade, right, never taking time off, always creating. And I just was like this month in January is not that right. I have a wonderful assistant who makes all the short clips for my podcast. We've been still sharing that.

Lunden Souza: 15:15

But I wasn't really sure how I felt after the detox and as I was going through your modules and the course, right, and I was like I could feel myself like that, trying to push the gas on an area that, and it was just like I was frustrated. I didn't feel creative, nothing was coming up. Then I was annoyed by that and I was like, girl, you need to sit your ass down, like you just need to like, like you said that, reciprocity, right, you use that word a lot in the course and I like it. I like the way you say it too. I don't know something about your voice and the way it comes out of your mouth is like such a. I love that and yeah, being able to give back to me and also receive. I don't need to be stretch Armstrong pulled in all the different directions, but I could feel that like there was this shift and it was like okay, are you going to go back to old ways? Are you going to keep pushing the gas and try to do more and not listen and just keep going and more is more? Are you going to choose a different path than what you saw? And so that's kind of what I've been choosing.

Lunden Souza: 16:13

And now we're at the last day of January, on the time of recording it, and I was like, so I've been kind of planning going through all that. But yeah, sometimes we need that, and I know a lot of people have asked me throughout the years like don't you ever take a break? Like you're always going? You all there's. Every time I open Instagram, your contents like never stop, and I'm like, no, we're good, you know. But this time it was different because, like you said, there's parts of you that cannot be ignored and I couldn't push that side down anymore. And do, do do If and I couldn't push that side down anymore and do do do If. I was going to do that, I was going to burn out and die.

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 16:50

That's how I felt. I was like no, I'm going to die if I do that Literally, and knowing and celebrating that wild essence in you, that creative life force. Energy is such a beautiful thing. It is your superpower, right? And how much more super powerful will that be when you bring in more of the wise that?

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 17:10

wise oh, really listening, and that's the beauty of the tantric dance and the womb space is she really informs in a in a really potent, clear way, right, and really helps you move with more of that wise woman energy and more of that beingness.

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 17:29

And I think we're all being called down, called, called up to as women slow down, right, like, slow down, because women are becoming like men, you know, with that doing, doing, doing more, more, more, making the more money, doing, the bigger business, having the more success. It's you know, I don't ever want to put anyone down and everyone has their own way of being and it could. It can be hard for women. It's giving women the message, especially on social media, that you're not enough with what you do, that it's like this, this comparison, and this like, because so many women who truly are in their authentic, you know, wisdom place aren't guided to move in that way. Right, and so it's, um, I think, especially this year with the snake, yes, action, yes, creation. This is a huge creation year. And from where are we creating from, and how are we moving in that creative life force?

Lunden Souza: 18:37

energy that is so important. Yeah, from where are we moving? From Right. For me it was like literally the voice of my grandpa, like work, like that was it Right? And now it's.

Lunden Souza: 18:50

You know, I have to choose. I get to choose to change that narrative, change the story, turn down the volume on that and turn up the volume on, like you said, the worthiness, the empowerment, the desire, the passion, the doesn't matter what you get done today, if you're just feeling good within that energy, that's a win. There doesn't have to be a checkbox there. And I want to talk more about the womb space, because this is really what you go into and maybe someone listening and also myself too.

Lunden Souza: 19:21

I'm very familiar with the different chakras and energy centers, but I've never done something where I've literally spent we spend so much time within that energy center, that sacral energy a you said it's like the temple, the space where you get to go and be free and express and all of that. And, oh my gosh, the visuals and the space that I got to set up within myself has been so magical you talk a lot about, like a dewy lotus flower and that serpent, kundalini energy, womb space. Let's talk a little bit about that, and then I'll share my experience kind of with you of what magic happened within me.

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 20:18

Yeah, well, you know, I've been doing tantric dance for about 20 years and what I have learned and continue to learn, it's really a lifelong practice, as anything is. But the womb space to me is really this incredible portal. And you know, jodis, I know you know you love Jodis Penza, you've been with him a lot, and how he talks about the void right, the void and the nothingness, the fertile void, he says too sometimes. Yeah, the fertile void. Yeah, that's the womb space is I mean it's?

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 20:53

our womb, it's this place of fertility, it's the place where the egg and the sperm come together and the life is created and gestated and nurtured. So it's this huge place that's fertile, you know, even if you don't have an actual womb, it's an energetic womb that is always there, that is always fertile in every single woman, and so it is this portal into pain. Really, we carry so much trauma, feminine trauma, in our womb space, and so when we begin this practice, we begin to feel a lot of things that we have not allowed ourselves to feel. So the beginning of this connection can come with really having to be willing to go into that dark, feminine and going into the shadow and going to this place of willingness to feel.

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 21:39

So it's a portal into pain right, and the deeper the pain, the greater the gift. So the deeper we connect with this pain, the greater the energy, the more is liberated for us to really be who we are here on this planet. It's also the portal into desire. So when we really move from our womb space, we're not coming from desire from here. Like my grandfather, like you said, said I should be doing this, my mom said I should be doing this, said, said I should be doing this. My mom said I should be doing this. My mind says I should be doing this. My womb is really has a different desire right, it's like I don't want to create a seven figure business. I want to be a mom and stay home or I don't want to be a mom and stay home.

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 22:18

I want to create a seven figure business and like really have huge impact in the world, globally.

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 22:23

Right, it's like what is the truth and so when you connect to womb space, it's a whole reorganization of where you're listening from, getting guidance from and then moving from. It's also the portal into pleasure, right. So it's like when we the Kundalini energy, this like golden serpent energy, lives in our cervix, it's like coiled at the base of our spine and cervix, at the very bottom of our womb space. And when we start to do this practice, that energy literally wakes up and it moves through the different energy centers and it wakes them all up and it brings different aspects and parts of you online. And so a big piece of that Kundalini, when it moves through the womb, when it moves through the first chakra, the yoni, it's like opening that sexuality, right.

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 23:08

The sexuality is the life force, like the sex, the sperm, the egg come together to create life, right. So that force of Eros, right, which is the erotic energy, it's sexual energy, it just is right, whether it's like actually connected to, like the act of sex or not, it is this life force that is so powerful that when we connect to it through the womb space, it changes our whole entire life, because that energy is the energy that we can play with and pray with. It has, you know, our highest awakening and service. It is the energy that we can play with and pray with.

Lunden Souza: 23:44

It has you know our highest awakening and service.

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 23:46

It's the energy that makes us more attractive, receptive, magnetic. These are the things that pleasure does. There's a whole neuroscience behind pleasure and how it really changes our beingness, our neurophysiology. As a chiropractor, I love talking about all those pieces, the science behind it, because once those places are shifted and changed, the pleasure comes in. Endorphins, oxytocin, nitric oxide, all of these things change the brain right, which then brings us in our power, because we can think different thoughts, we can be more confident, we're more bold, we're more apologetic, we care less about what people think, and so when we connect to this pleasure, we connect to the power in our womb space. The Shakti is the feminine power, it just is. It's like then we can actually go out and take action and create from a whole different place. So the womb space.

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 24:45

Really, it is the temple within us that when we sit in the temple and we do the practice, we get to experience the fullness of all of these things. Mm-hmm.

Lunden Souza: 24:58

Yeah, so good, and it makes me think of well myself too, but I have clients that I work with that are beyond the age of childbearing and never had a kid right.

Lunden Souza: 25:09

So tapping into being able, like you can create something amazingness, magic within that space, and it actually doesn't have to be a human. There's so much right and we get stuck in that space and, like you said, the shame and the guilt of not doing X, y or Z or what we should or supposed to, or what it means to be all that right. And I love those moments where women get to realize like, oh actually, maybe creating a person wasn't what you being here on earth this round was what you were doing. Maybe you were here to birth, like you said, a seven-figure business. Maybe it was humans, maybe it's a whatever. And I love the liberation that women get when they realize that like, oh yeah, I actually, like I've been for 20 years in this guilt-shame spiral of not being able to have kids and then I'm beyond menopause or whatever and it's not a reality for me to create naturally a child anymore, whatever. And being able to be like, oh, actually there's a. There's a lot more there than just that, absolutely A lot more there than just that.

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 26:16

I love that you use the word magic, because that's the name of the course that you just did is the manifesting magic which can be. You know, some people think like oh gosh, what is that? You know, magic and really the definition of magic is altering the course of events using supernatural powers. And when we connect with our womb space, it is actually a supernatural power that we have to cultivate our connection with this Shakti, with this Kundalini, with this energy. You know, I really call myself, I'm a chiropractor and self-mastery mentor and I really support women to master their energy. That's like master the energy and embody the Eros. And when we master this energy right, then we actually can alter the course of events. You know, because with this energetic we hold the desire, we fuel it with pleasure, we're connected to this energy and we can actually shape our reality. And especially then, when you add the chiropractic work that I do, which opens the, you know, gets the spine into alignment, lets that Kundalini flow even more, if our posture is in fight or flight, if we have trauma and tension and constriction, you know the spine is altered and the shape is altered that Kundalini actually can't get through, that life force can't get through. And so when we're in alignment it opens us even more to all the energetics around us as well. You know that aren't just like the survivor, the reactor, the thinker, but more of that optimizer, illuminator, weaver, and that's a whole different conversation. But when we get to play out here, which is what happens when your nervous system is reorganized, when that Kundalini moves through, you're connected more with the forces and the energies that help you shape your life.

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 28:09

And that is one of the most fun things that I get to do is support women to remember that they can connect with all of these different energies in very specific ways through what I teach, that they can shape their reality in very specific ways, through what I teach, that they can shape their reality. And when you remember, as a woman, that you can shape your reality, there is so much freedom, so much power, so much beauty, so much joy, cause it's like what today? Right, what am I going to create today? How am I going to shape my life today? And that it just gets. It gets really fun. It's playing in a whole new, in a whole new way. Yeah.

Lunden Souza: 28:47

Yeah, just creating your own game, your own. You know magic I just can keep using that word In your course that I took, and in creating that temple, that womb space for those that, of course, haven't taken the course, it's like every there's six modules and Erin teaches a little bit, but then you immediately go into 45-ish minutes of meditation and connecting with these different feminine avatars. Am I using the correct language? Yeah, and I remember. Am I using the correct language? Yeah, and I remember.

Lunden Souza: 29:26

Yeah, just, I'm a very visual person too. I love creating, you know, visual spaces with my eyes closed. So this was like really fun and I loved it. But I remember I think it was the first module was a lot about bringing in, you know, the dark, the hurt, the pain, like some of that stuff. And so my visual, or this womb space I created, is like so my spine is like the center, which is like the center of where everyone hangs out. It's also like a stripper pole where, if you want to shake it around, there's like some dancing happening in the middle on the spine right.

Lunden Souza: 30:01

So I remember creating this space and one of the first avatars that came out was like yeah, one of those shadow, darker ones, and it was like in this black cloak and carrying. So I could see the black cloak was covering her and I could see she was like carrying something. It was heavy. And then, as I welcomed her in, she dropped the buckets and they were buckets of rocks, like stones, and so then we worked together and we built the stones around the centerpiece of which is my spine and that was the gathering space. And then, as every part and avatar would come in, the next one was like a very anxious on the inside but smiling on the outside version. She was just kind of like it's kind of like anxiety on inside out. Exactly, frazzle, dazzle, just kind of like oh everything's okay, you know.

Lunden Souza: 30:55

And so, slowly but surely, these and avatars started coming and we built our little center area and it was so cool and also something I've shared before with people one-on-one. But I told myself when we were going to have this conversation. I was like I'm just going to tell this to Dr Aaron because I feel safe and I can. So, like, 12 years ago I had an abortion and I, honestly, I never had guilt or shame about that. I thought it was a good decision for where I was in that moment. I, honestly, I never had guilt or shame about that. Like, I thought it was a good decision for where I was in that moment, right. And in my process of sharing that with people one-on-one here or there, nine times out of 10, other women feel so free, right, and are just like, oh my God, yes, one time someone lost their shit on me and went bananas, right. Anyways, since I've been hiking around in Utah, I have this little girl energy that follows me when I hike, and I hike a lot by myself. So in this womb space there's this glowing ball that sits there too, and I think that's her. I think it was a girl, and so for me, I'm like that's not, I don't. I just, you know, I felt like that was the best decision in my life at the time. Even looking back now. You know this might be a very you know touchy subject for people listening, but I feel safe to share it with you, like someone might be so triggered and, you know, not like me and unfollow me, all the things. That's okay, I'm willing to have that happen. But I never felt guilt or shame or anything around that. I still don't to this day. But now I'm like, oh, that's kind of like my spirit guide or some part of that. That's still there and it's so beautiful and it also has something to teach me. But that's there too, and so that's why this month, in January, I was like I don't know what to. I can't create anything. I need to just be with myself. All this is coming up and we're building this campfire, stripper pole, womb space going. I can't. Right now, the world needs to pause. That's how I've been feeling. That's been so cool.

Lunden Souza: 33:00

I wanted to share that because I felt like I couldn't share that on a podcast episode by myself. Thank you for letting me share that, because I felt like I couldn't share that on a podcast episode by myself. So thank you for letting me share that and also like, thank you, like, thank you for what you do, because without that, I mean, I maybe would have figured, you know, but I'm so grateful because I had, you know, the masculine in me. I had my six modules and I planned it out and I knew when I was going to do it. But then I also, like you know, created that space to just you know, and sometimes I was on the ground in my kitchen sobbing, crying, crawling, roaring. Sometimes I was just like a little kid, smiling, doing like snow angels on the floor right, and I share that, because I think people are so afraid to go into that dark space but, like you said, there's so much good shit on the other side of it and I just feel really grateful for all of that experience.

Lunden Souza: 33:47

I don't know if you have reflections on it, but yes, thank you for sharing all of that and it is.

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 33:54

It's like. It's like the retrieval right, the retrieval of the anxiety and the acceptance and the welcoming home where then that part feels safe and heard and loved and accepted and part of and they don't have to like do outward shit to sabotage you, right. And then the retrieval of the part. That's like carrying the heavy rocks that just feels so burdened but then like, oh, let's use those rocks to build a campfire, right. That's like repurpose. Oh, let's use those rocks to build a campfire, right, let's like repurpose. It's like giving these parts. Often I work with women I give these parts different roles, right, different identities. It's like, okay, I've carried this identity for so long, what's the new identity now? What's the new role? And so I love just hearing how you've brought all these pieces in.

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 34:41

And then with the abortion, it's such a big thing, it brought all these pieces in and then you know, with the abortion, it's such a big thing, you know it's such a big thing and it's it's a beautiful thing that you really felt so clear and the brightness for you and that you can connect with the energetic that's there now and have more of this allyship and connection with this being and a lot of people women do have shame around it.

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 35:01

I've also had an abortion and when I started this process I had to grieve Like I just like oh, my goodness, in the beginning of my tantric dance journey. I can't even tell you how much I cried about so many things, about so many things. It was like this endless pit of just grief and despair, endless pit of just grief and despair. And I think that when we tap into this work not, I think, I know we're really also collecting into the collective, the global womb, and we feel the pain of all women really and we're feeling the suffering of all that's happening on this planet and all the ways that women have been tortured and killed and hurt and raped and dismissed. And it is, um, it's, it's such a service, you know, it's such a service to be able to feel for humanity Such a service.

Lunden Souza: 36:02

I'm crying, yeah, I think, for anyone listening now, it's just like this space that we share and express. It's because, yeah, like you said, there's other women out there that are stuck in this box of guilt, fear and shame every single day, all day, and pushing it down. And so how my thing is communication and vocalizing and making your masterpiece, like your message, of just that expression. And so, yeah, I hope somebody listening feels liberated in some of their decisions. It was the best choice. They're the the best choices. We always make the best choices.

Lunden Souza: 36:50

Um, where does a woman start? That is maybe never heard. Womb space, kundalini, shakti, yoni, right? I love how, in the beginning, in your first module, you're're like I'm going to say yoni pussy, like I just want you to know, you know, like we're using verbiage that like is so like, oh, you know. And so someone listening might be like, okay, what's the first step? I love how, in the meditations too, we're not just sitting upright and still right, you're having us like move our hips and get into that, and I just remember feeling like so good. So for somebody listening, what's a good place to get started, whether it's a resource you have or a book or just something to help them understand this more.

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 37:40

Yeah, absolutely so. On my website. Yeah, absolutely so. On my website, which is just dr Aaron Pollingercom, there's my free course and that is called seven steps to manifesting magic and it kind of goes through a lot of what we've talked about the seven different. You know the first step is all about connecting with womb space and that comes with meditation. So just doing that very simple meditation will start to get you connected and cultivating this relationship. And once you do that free course, you know, of course it goes through all the steps, which is being with what is, connecting with your desire, activating your pleasure, owning your power, listening and taking inspired action. So you'll learn a lot, and that's more of me talking about these things.

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 38:28

The meditation, yes, is part of the first step, so that would be good to get you embodied. But then you'll be connected to me and my list and I'm always putting out new offerings. I'm doing a retreat in June in Ashland, oregon, at our retreat center, illuminate. I do an in-person tantric dance class for those in Southern Oregon. I'm thinking about doing another Alchemize, which is an online eight-week container to really teach women more globally this practice of tantric dance, which actually translates really beautifully online. And let's see what else. Yeah, those are the big offerings coming up right now. I'm hoping to be doing, you know, three retreats a year, so there'll be lots of opportunity to come and play in this way.

Lunden Souza: 39:18

Yeah, I'm excited for June. Like I told you, I'm going to do everything to get there. I really want to, really want to come. I think it will be so cool.

Lunden Souza: 39:25

And I do like the idea of offering something online, because being able to create that container in my place right, I didn't have to go anywhere, I didn't have to, you know.

Lunden Souza: 39:33

I mean, of course, I'll be in a heartbeat over to Costa Rica, but it's like we don't have to go to the jungle and be in paradise to then create that here.

Lunden Souza: 39:41

So I really liked actually the sacredness of doing that actually in my apartment, because it's like different now, like I can look in my kitchen. It's not just where I cook, it's also where I like broke down and lost my shit a couple of times in a good way. I just remember being right next to my fridge. I was like sweating and next to my fridge was cold and it feels so good laying on the kitchen floor next to your fridge. If you need a moment, just FYI. But I think the idea of what you said maybe bringing that back the container for people to be able to do that at home not just for, of course, for your work to reach more people, of course, but also it's kind of cool when you can create a little shift in your space. It's not just where you live and go through the motions, it could actually be a place that you can tap into true healing and magic.

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 40:28

Yeah, and NABA, you know. NABA is another really great place where the Manifesting Magic course is, and that's a little trickier to find. It's in the library. But then I have another course called Own it, which is also on the NABA platform.

Lunden Souza: 40:44

Yeah, I haven't done that course yet, but I did your live one, so I'm excited to go in.

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 40:49

The live was more of the like, more current essence and energy. The other one is good. It's worth it.

Lunden Souza: 40:56

It's worth it. I hear you, though, cause I created my course too, yeah, and you go back and you're like, oh, okay, that was good for where she was now, but there's so much more that you but we also have to, you know, give ourself grace and credit because we, like, crushed it and got our course done. We had, you know, in our community. I remember loving your dress so much in that it looked, it was like seatbelts right, it was like the seatbelt material, how it was all woven in, and at that point I hadn't met you yet, but I was seeing all the clips and pictures and everything and I just, yeah, it's obviously more about what's on the inside than what's on the outside, but you're stunningly beautiful. So I remember being like, oh, I love that. Look at her dress. Okay, cool, I'm excited when I get to connect with her and know her more.

Lunden Souza: 41:40

But, yeah, we'll put all those links to everything that you mentioned. And yeah, as Erin mentioned, we are both part of the NABA community, which stands for the Natural Art of being Alive and heal and feel and connect and evolve and create and all the things. And while some social medias are cool, I can't discount it because that's how I built my brand and my business was on Instagram, but NABA is a way better place to be if you're looking for stuff that's going to feed your soul, your mind, your heart, all of that. So I'll put all those links in the description too, if you want to hang out where Erin and I hang out. Yeah, and Instagram.

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 42:32

Dr Erin Hollinger on Instagram too Cool.

Lunden Souza: 42:34

Yeah, I'm going to put all of the. I always put a little thing in the show notes with all the links so that you can connect with Dr Erin. Yeah, thank you for you. Thank you for doing what you do. It's changed my life and I know someone listening is going to ripple from this conversation. So I appreciate you and thanks for being here.

Dr. Erin Pollinger: 42:53

Thank, you so much and I just really just I, you know see you since I met you and everything that you do and all the ways like I see, ways I see that wild. That's such a gift of yours, that creative energy and your love of people and your love of connecting with people and bringing out people's light and helping people get more visible through the magic that you are. I really just honor and celebrate what you do and how you show up and I'm just really honored that you asked me to be here today.

Lunden Souza: 43:28

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